Balatos

Cyclura99 · 24th June 2006, 07:38 AM

These are not old swords old as in the context of being used in the tribal sense of the word. Ie: headhunting as in the 19th c.These have the Beku too big on the handle ect just not old very late.The metal is probably thin on the scabbards the white metal is probably aluminum.Fishing line is key to show its not old.

The boars tusks is the most common found on the ball.Sometimes you find wooden teeth carved on tourist not old .The true Nias royal swords have C.Porsus teeth on them or Higher status the next P.Tigris Sondaica extinct 1980's, or P.tigris balica extinct 1940 or the p. tigris Sumatrae Teeth.Also a combination of the p. porsus and the above mentioned .Also the wooden carved figures on the amulet but most are from North Nias. Also other teeth or various animals are found on the amulet ball.

Boars tusks found on amulets such as these are late made as you can see they are very dark ie;probably smoked.When you see a very old Nias sword with a old Amulet ball made of boars tusk the configuration on how they are placed is not of this style.They are also very glossy Patina from handling over years and years and light in color .Almost a ivory white. Check to see how the ball post is made ....

Cy

Flavio · 24th June 2006, 09:54 AM

Hello Cy, how are you? hope fine!

Could you, as of course Dajak and Michael, please post some pics of old balatos? Thank you very much

micas · 24th June 2006, 10:41 AM

Cyclura: Are you saying these are tourist pieces and NOT genuine?

I knew they were not from 19C. The seller pretty much said to buy from the Dutch for the really old pieces.

Dajak · 24th June 2006, 11:49 AM

Hi Flavio for the real bellato s you have to be by Cyclura the last I send to him had one off the best blade and glossy shining scabbard I have seen the last few years.
And it came from an very old collector from the Netherlands

24th June 2006, 07:38 AM	#1
Cyclura99 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 15	Balatos These are not old swords old as in the context of being used in the tribal sense of the word. Ie: headhunting as in the 19th c.These have the Beku too big on the handle ect just not old very late.The metal is probably thin on the scabbards the white metal is probably aluminum.Fishing line is key to show its not old. The boars tusks is the most common found on the ball.Sometimes you find wooden teeth carved on tourist not old .The true Nias royal swords have C.Porsus teeth on them or Higher status the next P.Tigris Sondaica extinct 1980's, or P.tigris balica extinct 1940 or the p. tigris Sumatrae Teeth.Also a combination of the p. porsus and the above mentioned .Also the wooden carved figures on the amulet but most are from North Nias. Also other teeth or various animals are found on the amulet ball. Boars tusks found on amulets such as these are late made as you can see they are very dark ie;probably smoked.When you see a very old Nias sword with a old Amulet ball made of boars tusk the configuration on how they are placed is not of this style.They are also very glossy Patina from handling over years and years and light in color .Almost a ivory white. Check to see how the ball post is made .... Cy

24th June 2006, 09:54 AM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Cy, how are you? hope fine! Could you, as of course Dajak and Michael, please post some pics of old balatos? Thank you very much

24th June 2006, 10:41 AM	#3
micas Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 30	Cyclura: Are you saying these are tourist pieces and NOT genuine? I knew they were not from 19C. The seller pretty much said to buy from the Dutch for the really old pieces.

24th June 2006, 11:49 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Flavio for the real bellato s you have to be by Cyclura the last I send to him had one off the best blade and glossy shining scabbard I have seen the last few years. And it came from an very old collector from the Netherlands