Sword fragment - opinions

Will M · 23rd December 2022, 07:01 PM

A frame can work for this but you only see one side and becomes two dimensional. I like open display having three dimensions however the choice is yours and it will be great to see the results. I would remove the recent corrosion then coat the sword in a rust stabilizer that tends to darken the iron.
It makes for a pleasing finish. Iron and steel were valuable and I can only imagine it's rare to find a damaged sword.

Reventlov · 23rd December 2022, 10:11 PM

You are welcome, and thank you Lee. Labuda's thesis can be downloaded here, there is a little discussion of the sword and the circumstances of its finding, but text is all in Slovakian:

https://is.muni.cz/th/aviae/

AHorsa · 24th December 2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Will M

A frame can work for this but you only see one side and becomes two dimensional. I like open display having three dimensions however the choice is yours and it will be great to see the results. I would remove the recent corrosion then coat the sword in a rust stabilizer that tends to darken the iron.
It makes for a pleasing finish. Iron and steel were valuable and I can only imagine it's rare to find a damaged sword.

Of course you are right regerading the frame / stand. On the other hand: also on a stand one can only see one side. Maybe I´ll do both and change from time to time

I will show you images, once it is done.

The corrusion seems different on the images. It is old rust / patina, which was partly remvoved. There is no new rust, even if it appears so on the images.

@ Lee: Thank you for your example. Can you tell what is written on the blade?

Kind regards
Andreas

Lee · 25th December 2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AHorsa

Can you tell what is written on the blade?

It is an iron inlaid, typically misspelt, "In nomine Domini" without spaces and between crosses potent.

AHorsa · 27th December 2022, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee

It is an iron inlaid, typically misspelt, "In nomine Domini" without spaces and between crosses potent.

Thank you, Lee!

I assume, that the fragment was,t cleaned in 1996, when Katkin did the drawin from #11. This would explain, why the detail of the quillon stepped in three parts wasn´t mentioned. I browsed many pictures of swords but couldn´t find an example with a similar parrier rod / quillons. Does anyone have an example of such?

Thanks and kind regards
Andreas

AHorsa · 29th December 2022, 05:39 PM

Here´s a picture of the sword with its acryl stand.

Kind regards
Andreas

Merenti · 29th December 2022, 05:42 PM

looks very good! some museums can take an example.

AHorsa · 30th December 2022, 09:47 AM

Thank you, mate!

Reventlov · 30th December 2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AHorsa

I browsed many pictures of swords but couldn´t find an example with a similar parrier rod / quillons. Does anyone have an example of such?

I could only find one close example, from Romania, in the Szekely National Museum. There is also a more well-known sword from Sweden that has a similar detail, but in the middle of the quillon and not at the tip.

https://www.albion-swords.com/swords...spirations.htm

PS. Display looks great!

AHorsa · 30th December 2022, 04:22 PM

Mark, thank you so much again!
Is there a date for the Romanian sword?

Kind regards
Andreas

Reventlov · 30th December 2022, 05:08 PM

I think the museum and publications have only dated it as 14th century. I would guess earlier in the century rather than later. Picture is from the article "Középkorikardok a Székely Nemzeti Múzeum gyűjteményeiben".

29th December 2022, 05:39 PM	#6
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Here´s a picture of the sword with its acryl stand. Kind regards Andreas Attached Images

23rd December 2022, 07:01 PM	#1
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 394	A frame can work for this but you only see one side and becomes two dimensional. I like open display having three dimensions however the choice is yours and it will be great to see the results. I would remove the recent corrosion then coat the sword in a rust stabilizer that tends to darken the iron. It makes for a pleasing finish. Iron and steel were valuable and I can only imagine it's rare to find a damaged sword.

23rd December 2022, 10:11 PM	#2
Reventlov Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 138	You are welcome, and thank you Lee. Labuda's thesis can be downloaded here, there is a little discussion of the sword and the circumstances of its finding, but text is all in Slovakian: https://is.muni.cz/th/aviae/

29th December 2022, 05:42 PM	#7
Merenti Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 72	looks very good! some museums can take an example.

30th December 2022, 09:47 AM	#8
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Thank you, mate!

30th December 2022, 04:22 PM	#10
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Mark, thank you so much again! Is there a date for the Romanian sword? Kind regards Andreas

30th December 2022, 05:08 PM	#11
Reventlov Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 138	I think the museum and publications have only dated it as 14th century. I would guess earlier in the century rather than later. Picture is from the article "Középkorikardok a Székely Nemzeti Múzeum gyűjteményeiben".