Review on Bali keris Pedang

[Battara]

Is that a "death shroud" pamor?

[Rick]

I think that death shroud could be one interpretation of the pamor, there are others I think.

[Anthony G.]

Originally Posted by Battara

Is that a "death shroud" pamor?

someone told me is Tambangan Badung pamor.

[SidJ]

Buntel Mayit pamor is the term used in some places. It has an auspicious and also potentially the opposite vibe depending on if it's suitable for the custodian from what I understand. It's a lovely thing. What is the bilah length?

[A. G. Maisey]

Actually Sid, it is Buntel Mayat, the "Buntel Mayit" name is a corruption.

In Javanese the word "buntel" is a wrapping, & "mayit" is a corpse. "Buntel Mayit" = "corpse wrapping" which sounds pretty hairy & scary, especially so for people who do not understand.

On the other hand, the word "mayat" means "to slope upwards", & "Buntel Mayat" = "wrapped in an upwards direction". In the understanding of those people who were the acknowledged elites of keris understanding & belief in Solo during the 1970's & 1980's this was a very positive pamor that enhanced the advancement of the bearer.

The "mayit" thing is just another persistent misunderstanding. Not at all unusual where the keris is concerned. But this is for Javanese keris.

In Bali this pamor is "Tambang(an) Badung". The word "tambang" means "rope", "Badung" is a regency in South Bali that covers most of the well known tourist areas --- Kuta, Legian, etc. So"Tambang Badung" = "Badung Rope".

[David]

Alan, i wonder what you thoughts are on the information Anthony received that this is a keris dhapur meant only for royalty. I guess i have a natural skepticism about such proclamations. And the choice of hilt seems unlikely for royalty.
Anthony, surely there were some other photos of this keris from the auction house. Are you able to post any. It looks like a nice keris. Congrats on achieving a long time desire.

[A. G. Maisey]

The "royalty" thing sounds like its in Grain o' Salt Country to me.

But there are lots of things I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

[Anthony G.]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The "royalty" thing sounds like its in Grain o' Salt Country to me.

But there are lots of things I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

Agreed Alan. And I thought this type is used for combat fighting back in old days.

[Anthony G.]

Originally Posted by David

Alan, i wonder what you thoughts are on the information Anthony received that this is a keris dhapur meant only for royalty. I guess i have a natural skepticism about such proclamations. And the choice of hilt seems unlikely for royalty.
Anthony, surely there were some other photos of this keris from the auction house. Are you able to post any. It looks like a nice keris. Congrats on achieving a long time desire.

Thanks David. But this keris has limited photo.

[kai]

Hello Sid,

What is the bilah length?

The blade length (without pesi) is just over 47cm (18 5/8").

Regards,
Kai

[Anthony G.]

Originally Posted by SidJ

Buntel Mayit pamor is the term used in some places. It has an auspicious and also potentially the opposite vibe depending on if it's suitable for the custodian from what I understand. It's a lovely thing. What is the bilah length?

total length 60cm