Thoughts on this Malay (?) knife

pmacleman · 19th June 2006, 12:40 AM

Fitting are silver. More pics of blade close to hilt as requested. Presume you are interested in the loop pattern in the steel?

What do you mean by re-staining?

Paul

Rick · 19th June 2006, 01:00 AM

Ahh , Batu Lapak ; the saddle stone on one side.
An auspicious blade indeed .

nechesh · 19th June 2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pmacleman

What do you mean by re-staining?

Paul, i am referring to the traditional method of blackening the iron and raising the contrast in the pamor pattern with warangan, a mixture of arsenic and lime juice.
That is indeed a very nice badek and it could look even nicer with a traditional cleaning and staining.

pmacleman · 19th June 2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nechesh

Paul, i am referring to the traditional method of blackening the iron and raising the contrast in the pamor pattern with warangan, a mixture of arsenic and lime juice.
That is indeed a very nice badek and it could look even nicer with a traditional cleaning and staining.

Ahh, I know what you mean now. My grandfather who, together with my father, started me collecting had a very nice keris that I now realise had been treated in this manner. Did not know the term or the process, thanks.

Paul

Ki Jayamalelo · 19th June 2006, 06:50 AM

The blade could be South Sulawesi and its a badik. The "batu lapak" could be a trade mark and is not uncommon for badik blades. There has been an inter insular iron trade in Indonesian waters since long time. But it needs more research.

BluErf · 19th June 2006, 03:52 PM

Looks like a badik, or as the Sulawesi Bugis would call it - kawali.

The fittings are interesting though. Its not quite typical badik fittings. Almost has a Javanese/Madurese look to it.

19th June 2006, 12:40 AM	#1
pmacleman Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 17	Fitting are silver. More pics of blade close to hilt as requested. Presume you are interested in the loop pattern in the steel? What do you mean by re-staining? Paul

19th June 2006, 01:00 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Ahh , Batu Lapak ; the saddle stone on one side. An auspicious blade indeed .

19th June 2006, 06:50 AM	#5
Ki Jayamalelo Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 18	The blade could be South Sulawesi and its a badik. The "batu lapak" could be a trade mark and is not uncommon for badik blades. There has been an inter insular iron trade in Indonesian waters since long time. But it needs more research.

19th June 2006, 03:52 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Looks like a badik, or as the Sulawesi Bugis would call it - kawali. The fittings are interesting though. Its not quite typical badik fittings. Almost has a Javanese/Madurese look to it.