Decoration on Indian blades

Andrew · 29th January 2005, 02:02 AM

Another outstanding sword, Jens. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Jim's comments above remind me of a katar you posted on the old forum with similar scenes. For some reason, I was unable to find it. Could you post photos of it for comparison? That is, if my memory is accurate.

Can you estimate an age on this sword? How common is this handle form? It is certainly seen, as Jim notes, on khanjars, but I've really not seen it on older swords. Many contemporary weapons feature it, however.

Thanks again!

Jens Nordlunde · 29th January 2005, 09:23 AM

Hi Andrew,

I think it is this one you are thinking of.

Jens Nordlunde · 29th January 2005, 09:24 AM

Here is a detail.

Alam Shah · 29th January 2005, 11:58 AM

Excellent pieces. Both of them. (Museum quality).

Jeff D · 29th January 2005, 07:20 PM

Nice pieces Jen thanks for sharing them with us. Could the hand guard be a later add on? The one in Figiel's book seems to attach in two places so it is unlikely it screws on.
I wonder if your hilt was made with out the guard and was added later as fashion or need dictated.

Thanks again for bringing these pieces up.
Jeff

Jens Nordlunde · 29th January 2005, 09:45 PM

Jeff,

I don't really know, but if the hand guard on mine was not bend so much, or the angle it was photographed in, was different it would also look as you describe. That Figiel has not commentet on it does not mean that the hand guars on his former sword, ccan not be screwed off, he might not have found it interesting, or maybe he did not even notice. It took me some time before I found out that it was loose.

Jens

Jeff D · 30th January 2005, 12:52 AM

Hi Jen,

I have seen older hilts that have been modified by placing a guard on. The photo below is one, however the guard was subsequently lost. I make this comment only to illustrate that even if the screw is relatively modern the hilt still may be quite old.

Jeff

Andrew · 30th January 2005, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Hi Andrew,

I think it is this one you are thinking of.

Yes. Thanks for posting it again.

29th January 2005, 09:23 AM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Andrew, I think it is this one you are thinking of. Attached Images

29th January 2005, 09:24 AM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Here is a detail. Attached Images

30th January 2005, 12:52 AM	#7
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Jen, I have seen older hilts that have been modified by placing a guard on. The photo below is one, however the guard was subsequently lost. I make this comment only to illustrate that even if the screw is relatively modern the hilt still may be quite old. Jeff Attached Images

29th January 2005, 02:02 AM	#1
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Another outstanding sword, Jens. Thank you for sharing this with us. Jim's comments above remind me of a katar you posted on the old forum with similar scenes. For some reason, I was unable to find it. Could you post photos of it for comparison? That is, if my memory is accurate. Can you estimate an age on this sword? How common is this handle form? It is certainly seen, as Jim notes, on khanjars, but I've really not seen it on older swords. Many contemporary weapons feature it, however. Thanks again!

29th January 2005, 11:58 AM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Excellent pieces. Both of them. (Museum quality).

29th January 2005, 07:20 PM	#5
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Nice pieces Jen thanks for sharing them with us. Could the hand guard be a later add on? The one in Figiel's book seems to attach in two places so it is unlikely it screws on. I wonder if your hilt was made with out the guard and was added later as fashion or need dictated. Thanks again for bringing these pieces up. Jeff

29th January 2005, 09:45 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Jeff, I don't really know, but if the hand guard on mine was not bend so much, or the angle it was photographed in, was different it would also look as you describe. That Figiel has not commentet on it does not mean that the hand guars on his former sword, ccan not be screwed off, he might not have found it interesting, or maybe he did not even notice. It took me some time before I found out that it was loose. Jens