Sword of Portuguese King Dom Dinis (1279-1325)

corrado26 · 27th October 2022, 06:03 PM

That's a really interesting video, thanks a lot

fernando · 27th October 2022, 06:15 PM

Thanks all

CSinTX · 28th October 2022, 08:29 PM

Interesting. It looks like something we would likely misidentify as "fantasy". Hopefully we can see the blade later.

fernando · 28th October 2022, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CSinTX

Interesting. It looks like something we would likely misidentify as "fantasy". Hopefully we can see the blade later.

This is no blog nor any sensationalist media, Rick. It is the Public TV chanel; those persons are not trying to play tricks.

CSinTX · 28th October 2022, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

This is no blog nor any sensationalist media, Rick. It is the Public TV chanel; those persons are not trying to play tricks.

My point was that sometimes maybe we are wrong.

M ELEY · 29th October 2022, 12:35 AM

I agree. CSinTX. Some of the late medieval swords had a 'fanciful' look to them that could throw you if you didn't see them literally being removed from their tombs. I recall seeing the intact blade of some early English king from the 1400's and it was like this one in many ways.

Fernando, thanks for posting this great footage!

Philip · 29th October 2022, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

I agree. CSinTX. Some of the late medieval swords had a 'fanciful' look to them that could throw you if you didn't see them literally being removed from their tombs. I recall seeing the intact blade of some early English king from the 1400's and it was like this one in many ways.

Fernando, thanks for posting this great footage!

The decoration may look "fanciful" at first blush but in essence the proportions of hilt to blade length, the relative narrowness of the quillons, and the wheel pommel with large flattened central bosses is quite reminiscent of those features on the sword of Giovanni de' Medici (d 1353) which was recovered from his tomb in Florence early in the last century. This sword was in pretty dreadful as-found condition, having suffered more deterioration during its internment, but has since been cleaned and conserved to the point at which the blade is essentially intact, with original edge and tip contours, albeit with the expected corrosion pits. I can't wait to see what Dom Dinis' sword will look like after conservation is completed.

You can see "before" and "after" photos of Giovanni de' Medici's sword in plates 44.52 in Boccia/Coelho, Armi Bianche Italiane.

27th October 2022, 06:03 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	That's a really interesting video, thanks a lot

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fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks all

28th October 2022, 08:29 PM	#3
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	Interesting. It looks like something we would likely misidentify as "fantasy". Hopefully we can see the blade later.

29th October 2022, 12:35 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	I agree. CSinTX. Some of the late medieval swords had a 'fanciful' look to them that could throw you if you didn't see them literally being removed from their tombs. I recall seeing the intact blade of some early English king from the 1400's and it was like this one in many ways. Fernando, thanks for posting this great footage!