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Old 31st July 2022, 12:13 AM   #1
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Yes, provenance is the basics with these things; providing such (provenance) is not fabricated. Anyone can tell you that the specimen was brought out by a diver when collecting stuff from a wreck ... or the like.
The ball posted, with its circa 4" diameter, should weigh about, say, 3 pounds and, if it were an artillery item, would fit in a XIV-XVI century small bombard, or a falcon. I guess too small for catapults, though... like those in Sant'Angelo.
Also i realize that, their construction being too regular, doesn't help supporting their genuinity .

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Thanks , great information indeed , one concern I had is that it might be a Mill ball , but I think with those the uniform wear is quite different from the hand tooling marks seen on my ball .

It's located in Australia, I know that a few family members did travel the world a few times , but that's pure speculation if it originated overseas
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Old 31st July 2022, 09:40 AM   #2
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Mill (grinding) balls are iron. That's what i feared when i gathered by iron ammo.

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Old 31st July 2022, 01:31 PM   #3
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Old style windmill water pumps used in remote prairie or outback locations for livestock, etc, generally had a speed governor that uses heavy iron balls as part of the mechanism. Some get sold as cannon balls.
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Those could be easily excluded by the initiated, as they leave visible marks of their suspension rings.
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Old 22nd October 2022, 05:43 PM   #5
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Mill (grinding) balls are iron. That's what i feared when i gathered by iron ammo.
I recently found these in a friend's yard. I remembered reading a thread about items that could be mis marketed as cannon balls. I live in an area that had many precious metal ore mines at one time. I thought a picture might be appreciated. The measurements are in inches, my apologies to my metric friends. Also attached is a short reference from everyone's favorite source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_mill
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