An Ottoman Shamshir for Comment

Valjhun · 12th June 2006, 07:55 PM

It has reapeared on ebay:

KILIJ

Seems that it has found its scabbard too. The nicest kilij on ebay in 2006

ariel · 12th June 2006, 08:49 PM

The description suggests that the scabbard fittings were restored; no mention of the scabbard (likely new too, although we do not know whether the original one, shown to Charles, had one). The problem is with a missing (?) comma between the words "silver fittings restored scabbard": a classic "eats shoots and leaves" story.

Peter Newman · 1st April 2007, 09:15 AM

Dear all,

The discussion on this page has been fascinating and enlightening to say the least. I have recently undertaken a second year study into Ottoman warfare, and the topics presented here (amongst others) instigated an interest such that I have chosen to study Ottoman non-gunpowder weapons under assessment.

However, as this is the first time I have looked at weaponry rather than battle technique, mechanisms for provision etc I have little knowledge of the terminology for sabres in general. Could somebody kindly assist with information on the basic features and correct terminology for an Ottoman sabre, and how it might have changed overt time?

Thankyou very much for your time,

Pete

1st April 2007, 09:15 AM	#3
Peter Newman Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1	Ottoman Sabres Dear all, The discussion on this page has been fascinating and enlightening to say the least. I have recently undertaken a second year study into Ottoman warfare, and the topics presented here (amongst others) instigated an interest such that I have chosen to study Ottoman non-gunpowder weapons under assessment. However, as this is the first time I have looked at weaponry rather than battle technique, mechanisms for provision etc I have little knowledge of the terminology for sabres in general. Could somebody kindly assist with information on the basic features and correct terminology for an Ottoman sabre, and how it might have changed overt time? Thankyou very much for your time, Pete

12th June 2006, 07:55 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	It has reapeared on ebay: KILIJ Seems that it has found its scabbard too. The nicest kilij on ebay in 2006

12th June 2006, 08:49 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The description suggests that the scabbard fittings were restored; no mention of the scabbard (likely new too, although we do not know whether the original one, shown to Charles, had one). The problem is with a missing (?) comma between the words "silver fittings restored scabbard": a classic "eats shoots and leaves" story.