Kaskra translation please?

Tim Simmons · 12th June 2006, 02:20 PM

Thank you Valjhan, I am very pleased. I have been looking on the web and think I have found one of the pieces of script. The form of script is called Naskh.

The example shown says-

In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful

I might have it all wrong but that might help prompt others to correct me.

katana · 12th June 2006, 08:39 PM

Nice Kaskara Tim

,
I followed this one myself and was going to bid. as I went to 'conform bid' ....the price shot up, but I am glad that you got it.
Although it is not functional (usually a 'minus' point for me), I think this sword has ....'Je ne sais que' ( I hope I've got that right ). I too, will be most interested in the translation.

Jeff D · 12th June 2006, 08:47 PM

Hi Tim,

Is that a date 1298 ?

Jeff

Tim Simmons · 12th June 2006, 09:19 PM

Hello Jeff,

I cannot read the date. Could you point it out to me? If it is 1298 then using a web site, that comes to 1881, quite early in the Mahdist rebellion.

The other main bidder was a chap from Saudi, who was asking how much to ship to Saudi, so I think I was lucky to get away with my shirt still on.

Katana,

I get a bit tired of a room full of the macho outlook, often a little limiting in my view. I like the esoteric side to weapons, life is full of images about the power invested in the sword, I like to understand how images work and there affects on people.

ariel · 12th June 2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff D

Hi Tim,

Is that a date 1298 ?

Jeff

Jeff, I agree 100%: it is dated 1298, ie 1880-1881 Gregorian.
Just the beginning of Mahdi/ British clash!
Well, Tim, my condolences...

It seems that this one may be not just a decorative, esoteric trinket, but a real " mucho macho" sword with battles and blood behind it. Tough for you...

Enjoy it!

Tim Simmons · 12th June 2006, 09:34 PM

Tough indeed!! Thanks Jeff and ariel, I have just got to try and wipe this silly grin off my face

. I am still unsure about its fighting abilities, it is only about 2mm thick tip to hilt and not really tempered, still the hunch proved right.

Rick · 12th June 2006, 10:17 PM

Then again , a man may make a sword at any time and put whatever date he wishes upon its surface , no ?

ariel · 12th June 2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Then again , a man may make a sword at any time and put whatever date he wishes upon its surface , no ?

Spoiler...

S.Al-Anizi · 12th June 2006, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Thank you Valjhan, I am very pleased. I have been looking on the web and think I have found one of the pieces of script. The form of script is called Naskh.

The example shown says-

I might have it all wrong but that might help prompt others to correct me.

Hello Tim,

That part of the sword reads " Al-Khartoum Sanat 1298", not "In the name of god, the most beneficent, the most merciful" in arabic. I agree with you, this does not seem to be a quality blade, most etched blades coming out of sudan aren't anyway, the good Kaskara's are the ones with European blades.

12th June 2006, 02:20 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,918	Thank you Valjhan, I am very pleased. I have been looking on the web and think I have found one of the pieces of script. The form of script is called Naskh. The example shown says- In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful I might have it all wrong but that might help prompt others to correct me. Attached Images

12th June 2006, 08:39 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Nice Kaskara Tim , I followed this one myself and was going to bid. as I went to 'conform bid' ....the price shot up, but I am glad that you got it. Although it is not functional (usually a 'minus' point for me), I think this sword has ....'Je ne sais que' ( I hope I've got that right ). I too, will be most interested in the translation.

12th June 2006, 08:47 PM	#3
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Tim, Is that a date 1298 ? Jeff

12th June 2006, 09:19 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,918	Hello Jeff, I cannot read the date. Could you point it out to me? If it is 1298 then using a web site, that comes to 1881, quite early in the Mahdist rebellion. The other main bidder was a chap from Saudi, who was asking how much to ship to Saudi, so I think I was lucky to get away with my shirt still on. Katana, I get a bit tired of a room full of the macho outlook, often a little limiting in my view. I like the esoteric side to weapons, life is full of images about the power invested in the sword, I like to understand how images work and there affects on people.

12th June 2006, 09:34 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,918	Tough indeed!! Thanks Jeff and ariel, I have just got to try and wipe this silly grin off my face . I am still unsure about its fighting abilities, it is only about 2mm thick tip to hilt and not really tempered, still the hunch proved right.

12th June 2006, 10:17 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Then again , a man may make a sword at any time and put whatever date he wishes upon its surface , no ?