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Hi Peter, are you able to upload images of any of those tobacco jars? It would be interesting to compare, thanks.
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As a help to compare here are photos of a genuine Naples made pistol from the Real Fabbrica di Napoli. I think the pistol in question was made either in Spain or in America
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Here is a tobacco jar made in Delft, 18th century, with decoration inspired from the colonies, note the 'Indian' , original inhabitant of the Americas, and the VOC monogram on the right of the jar.
photo courtesy, Rob Michiels auctions - 2016 |
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Thanks, Fernando K, Udo and Peter.
I have been unable to find other metal work with such motifs. What could be the connection between the two, European heraldic and New World indigenes? |
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Hello
Question for Conrrado. The little hole that can be seen behind the bowl is for a "faithful", missing in this case and what is the method to fix the flange to the plate. Thank you Affectionately |
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I do not understand what you mean with a "Faithful". I added photos which show the hole in which I stuck a screwdriver to show that the hole is going through. I do not know for which purpose this has been made and can see no sense in it, sorry.
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Hello, Corrado
The "faithful" was a method used by the Spanish to fix cylindrical pieces, instead of proceeding to thread them, particularly with the frizen screw, so that it would not move, turn or come out. LAVIN mentions them in his work Thanks for the photo and for replying. Affectionately |
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Whether this pin, for this particular application, can be regarded as a fiel in light of the rather precise definition of same in old texts is a subject for another post. However, at this point we can be clear that the mounting of the priming pan bridle / cover plate is a separate issue from the frizzen pivot (mounted just ahead of the pan). |
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