A Pair of English Swords?

Radboud · 22nd January 2022, 08:18 PM

2. Officers 1796 Pattern light cavalry by Osborn dating to before 1800:

This a stouter sword, that weighs 900 grams, the blade width at the ricasso is 35mm, pinches in to 33mm in the middle before flaring out to 41mm near the tip. The thickness is 10.2mm down to 1.5mm

Radboud · 22nd January 2022, 08:26 PM

This last sword is not a British 1796 Pattern Light Cavalry.

It is a Dutch m1813 No.1 Light Cavalry Troopers sabre, and nicely illustrates the problem with other nations use of this sword type. The m1813 No.1 is a close copy of the 1796 pattern, with many even being British made 1796s sold to the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1813 - 1814.

But my sword is from the second batch ordered by the Dutch Government from makers in Solingen. It is a near perfect copy of the 1796 pattern and the only reliable way to tell them apart is by the presence of Dutch markings on the grip, spine and scabbard.

It is also a heavy sword, 990 grams, width at ricasso is 41mm narrows to 35mm then flares to 43mm. Blade thickness is 9mm to 1.9mm

drac2k · 22nd January 2022, 08:37 PM

You have 2 beautiful swords there Radboud! I didn't pay much for the sword and the vendor who sold me the item really thought it was such an item. I like it for what it is, an old copy, possibly Indian, of an LC 1796, and if I can ever decipher the arsenal mark that would be great. I have a policy that if the items are worth more than what I paid for them, I don't give the seller extra money, that is my gain and if they are worth less than what I paid, that amount goes towards my education.LOL.

Radboud · 22nd January 2022, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

You have 2 beautiful swords there Radboud!

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by drac2k

I like it for what it is, an old copy, possibly Indian, of an LC 1796, and if I can ever decipher the arsenal mark that would be great.

Good on you. At the end of the day, this is all that matters. So much more than the opinion of some random on the internet.

22nd January 2022, 08:18 PM	#1
Radboud Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 276	2. Officers 1796 Pattern light cavalry by Osborn dating to before 1800: This a stouter sword, that weighs 900 grams, the blade width at the ricasso is 35mm, pinches in to 33mm in the middle before flaring out to 41mm near the tip. The thickness is 10.2mm down to 1.5mm Attached Images

22nd January 2022, 08:26 PM	#2
Radboud Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 276	This last sword is not a British 1796 Pattern Light Cavalry. It is a Dutch m1813 No.1 Light Cavalry Troopers sabre, and nicely illustrates the problem with other nations use of this sword type. The m1813 No.1 is a close copy of the 1796 pattern, with many even being British made 1796s sold to the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1813 - 1814. But my sword is from the second batch ordered by the Dutch Government from makers in Solingen. It is a near perfect copy of the 1796 pattern and the only reliable way to tell them apart is by the presence of Dutch markings on the grip, spine and scabbard. It is also a heavy sword, 990 grams, width at ricasso is 41mm narrows to 35mm then flares to 43mm. Blade thickness is 9mm to 1.9mm Attached Images

22nd January 2022, 08:37 PM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,255	You have 2 beautiful swords there Radboud! I didn't pay much for the sword and the vendor who sold me the item really thought it was such an item. I like it for what it is, an old copy, possibly Indian, of an LC 1796, and if I can ever decipher the arsenal mark that would be great. I have a policy that if the items are worth more than what I paid for them, I don't give the seller extra money, that is my gain and if they are worth less than what I paid, that amount goes towards my education.LOL.