A saber of unknown origin and age

Will M · 30th September 2021, 12:53 AM

The scabbard frog stud is German style. The scabbard is incorrect for the sword and does not fit well being far too wide and too long.
Continental is a term used for "who knows, somewhere in Europe".
The lion head pommel is typical of British 1803p swords. The pipe back blade can be German and British since both used the type.
Could be French made for the British market. Note the scabbard mouth indentation on the brass guard around the blade, only a steel mouth would do this being harder than the brass guard.

Radboud · 30th September 2021, 08:31 AM

For my two cents, I don't think the lion head is typically British at all. Instead, it is more like this cavalry sabre from Solingen.

corrado26 · 30th September 2021, 09:19 AM

The key to the solution is certainly the signature at the hilt. I can read MORSDL & Cie", the "DL" is uncertain. Maybe someone here knows this name?

Radboud · 30th September 2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

The key to the solution is certainly the signature at the hilt. I can read MORSDL & Cie", the "DL" is uncertain. Maybe someone here knows this name?

Steve Langham is compiling a database of British Makers and Retailers that is available online: British Sword Markers and Retailers

But a search for MORS doesn't turn up any likely candidates, alas.

corrado26 · 30th September 2021, 09:59 AM

After my understanding this name cannot be English, because in the English language the word "company" is written with an "y" at the end, not with an "ie" as is the case in France or Germany

fernando · 30th September 2021, 10:54 AM

How about "& Cº" ?; hardly, i know

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MORSDL would not make much sense ... in any language, i guess; it would be missing a vowel ... or two. Definitely the way to a right answer would be easier to find if Patrick posted a more accurate picture of the mark

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awdaniec666 · 30th September 2021, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Definitely the way to a right answer would be easier to find if Patrick posted a more accurate picture of the mark

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And he will! I am still waiting for it to arrive

Exact measurements and better images will follow as soon as I hold it in my hands.

Thank you all for this interesting aspects so far!

30th September 2021, 08:31 AM	#2
Radboud Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 286	For my two cents, I don't think the lion head is typically British at all. Instead, it is more like this cavalry sabre from Solingen. Attached Images

30th September 2021, 12:53 AM	#1
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 395	The scabbard frog stud is German style. The scabbard is incorrect for the sword and does not fit well being far too wide and too long. Continental is a term used for "who knows, somewhere in Europe". The lion head pommel is typical of British 1803p swords. The pipe back blade can be German and British since both used the type. Could be French made for the British market. Note the scabbard mouth indentation on the brass guard around the blade, only a steel mouth would do this being harder than the brass guard.

30th September 2021, 09:19 AM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	The key to the solution is certainly the signature at the hilt. I can read MORSDL & Cie", the "DL" is uncertain. Maybe someone here knows this name?

30th September 2021, 09:59 AM	#5
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	After my understanding this name cannot be English, because in the English language the word "company" is written with an "y" at the end, not with an "ie" as is the case in France or Germany

30th September 2021, 10:54 AM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	How about "& Cº" ?; hardly, i know . MORSDL would not make much sense ... in any language, i guess; it would be missing a vowel ... or two. Definitely the way to a right answer would be easier to find if Patrick posted a more accurate picture of the mark .