17th century European sword - Looking for assistance with blade marks

cornelistromp · 15th August 2021, 09:45 AM

These walloon swords were produced under contract from amsterdam arms dealers in solingen. In solingen an amsterdam mark was already smashed into the blade, this is the vague mark; a shield with three crosses under a royal crown. (instead of the imperial crown).
Sometimes the initials of the solingen smith were also struck into the blade. thus it is known that these swords were produced in solingen.

After the weapons arrived in Amsterdam they were inspected and after aproval an Amsterdam proof mark is stamped over the old mark. (This is the clear mark with the three crosses.)

see attachment of the marks from a walloon sword from the visser collection: HV-693 p150 visser cat part3, JP puype.

Jim McDougall · 15th August 2021, 05:56 PM

As they say in Texas, 'well! there ya have it!'!!!
Thank you SO much Jasper!!!
I guess now we can stop chasin' them zebras!

Which book is this from?

cornelistromp · 16th August 2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

As they say in Texas, 'well! there ya have it!'!!!
Thank you SO much Jasper!!!
I guess now we can stop chasin' them zebras!

Which book is this from?

Hi Jim, it's mentioned in the post, from the visser collection catalogue: HV-693 page 150 visser cat part-3, author JP puype.
Visser had 8-9 ( I don't recall) walloon swords, they are all described in the above Cat.

btw if you see the marks and the inscription x SAHAGVM x of the visser sword hv-693 , are they likely to come from the same workshop or delivery.

best, Jasper

RSWORD · 16th August 2021, 08:39 PM

Thanks everyone for the information. All very helpful.

15th August 2021, 09:45 AM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	These walloon swords were produced under contract from amsterdam arms dealers in solingen. In solingen an amsterdam mark was already smashed into the blade, this is the vague mark; a shield with three crosses under a royal crown. (instead of the imperial crown). Sometimes the initials of the solingen smith were also struck into the blade. thus it is known that these swords were produced in solingen. After the weapons arrived in Amsterdam they were inspected and after aproval an Amsterdam proof mark is stamped over the old mark. (This is the clear mark with the three crosses.) see attachment of the marks from a walloon sword from the visser collection: HV-693 p150 visser cat part3, JP puype. Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 15th August 2021 at 09:57 AM.

15th August 2021, 05:56 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,191	As they say in Texas, 'well! there ya have it!'!!! Thank you SO much Jasper!!! I guess now we can stop chasin' them zebras! Which book is this from?

16th August 2021, 08:39 PM	#4
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Thanks everyone for the information. All very helpful.