ID on this dagger

Tim Simmons · 29th June 2021, 03:58 PM

The blade looks like one of those North African knives from Morocco and about I believe called Bou Saadi or Boo Sado

Kubur · 29th June 2021, 04:27 PM

Hi,
Let's agree to disagree.
Bou Saadi's blades are not like that (plus Bou Saadi are Algerians)
For me, it's more an Afghan or Indian karud type blade.
The Roman numbers at the forte are intriguing.
I like Leif's idea gunong moro hilt with foreign blade.
Clearly the blade and the hilt are a marriage.

Tim Simmons · 29th June 2021, 07:24 PM

Two marriages is bigamy.

Sajen · 14th February 2025, 11:50 PM

I stumbled upon this old thread, I strongly guess that these daggers are Cylonese.

These knives/daggers are Celoyonese mahout's daggers. See here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=lankan

RobT · 15th February 2025, 01:22 AM

Hi All,

I have a good number of Philippine Bowies but nary a one with a fuller so I don’t think that thinreadline’s blade is a repurposed Philippine Bowie. The ricasso is also not something I have ever seen on a Philippine Bowie. In addition, the hilt ferrule looks like something from Nepal or Afghanistan. I can’t recall ever having seen something like it on a Philippine knife or sword. The X (for ten) and the IV (for four) could be Roman numerals but, AFAIK, there is no plus sign (or cross) Roman numeral. It’s a pretty interesting piece. The blade would serve well on a boning knife.

Sincerely,
RobT

Sajen · 15th February 2025, 01:48 PM

Compare!

carlos · 15th February 2025, 02:48 PM

I have one similar with sheath....

14th February 2025, 11:50 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,161	I stumbled upon this old thread, I strongly guess that these daggers are Cylonese. These knives/daggers are Celoyonese mahout's daggers. See here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=lankan Last edited by Sajen; 15th February 2025 at 01:45 PM.

15th February 2025, 01:22 AM	#5
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 533	Not Philippine I Think Hi All, I have a good number of Philippine Bowies but nary a one with a fuller so I don’t think that thinreadline’s blade is a repurposed Philippine Bowie. The ricasso is also not something I have ever seen on a Philippine Bowie. In addition, the hilt ferrule looks like something from Nepal or Afghanistan. I can’t recall ever having seen something like it on a Philippine knife or sword. The X (for ten) and the IV (for four) could be Roman numerals but, AFAIK, there is no plus sign (or cross) Roman numeral. It’s a pretty interesting piece. The blade would serve well on a boning knife. Sincerely, RobT

15th February 2025, 01:48 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,161	Compare! Attached Images

15th February 2025, 02:48 PM	#7
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	I have one similar with sheath.... Attached Images

29th June 2021, 03:58 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	The blade looks like one of those North African knives from Morocco and about I believe called Bou Saadi or Boo Sado

29th June 2021, 04:27 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, Let's agree to disagree. Bou Saadi's blades are not like that (plus Bou Saadi are Algerians) For me, it's more an Afghan or Indian karud type blade. The Roman numbers at the forte are intriguing. I like Leif's idea gunong moro hilt with foreign blade. Clearly the blade and the hilt are a marriage.

29th June 2021, 07:24 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Two marriages is bigamy.