a mystery to me

fernando · 25th May 2021, 06:47 PM

Not that i have been folowing this thread, with all 'nuances' involving both the clash between short and long edged weapons, or and edged weapons versus firearms, among different cultures. Whether memorized in Californio episodes or somewhere in Europe, was only a different time delay of one of the parties before inexorable evolution took place (save me from the dumb philosophy).
Matchlock was good and stood long until flintlock showed up; then comes Forsyth with the fulminant cap and goodbye lazy flint system. Then came Lefaucheux with the pinfire whole cartridge (1830's); better was Flobert with his rimfire (pinless) cartridge ( ho ... yelowboy). But of course, all had the 'right' to have their failures, one at a time.
But as we are collectors, (ignition) system liabilities are not the big issue, sometimes the opposite, as make them rarer. The pistol posted in this thread is a great collectors item. Note that is not a double action but a single action with a 'trick' to double act ... which makes it unique.
All the above tale to get me courage to show you a real bizarre ingnition system, one worthy of its author ... a dentist.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=bizarre

urbanspaceman · 25th May 2021, 07:17 PM

I actually think that was an altogether better system that the perc' caps which you couldn't load with gloved hands and which were also prone to falling off..
Shame they never adapted that system for revolvers.
If the cap-roll paper was heavily waxed, and consequently waterproof, and you had multiple pre-loaded cylinders, you were well ahead of the game.
Fascinating. Thank-you Fernando: my area of interest indeed.

urbanspaceman · 25th May 2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

The pistol posted in this thread is a great collectors item.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=bizarre

I haven't bought this pistol yet as I am waiting on the auction of a Sciavona which is seriously missing from my collection. If it proves to rich for my wallet then I suspect I will buy the pistol.
As Fernando says, it's a great collector's item.

urbanspaceman · 26th May 2021, 12:02 AM

Well, well, well, what a surprise: just what I was talking about, up for sale.

25th May 2021, 06:47 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Once i am recovering fast Not that i have been folowing this thread, with all 'nuances' involving both the clash between short and long edged weapons, or and edged weapons versus firearms, among different cultures. Whether memorized in Californio episodes or somewhere in Europe, was only a different time delay of one of the parties before inexorable evolution took place (save me from the dumb philosophy). Matchlock was good and stood long until flintlock showed up; then comes Forsyth with the fulminant cap and goodbye lazy flint system. Then came Lefaucheux with the pinfire whole cartridge (1830's); better was Flobert with his rimfire (pinless) cartridge ( ho ... yelowboy). But of course, all had the 'right' to have their failures, one at a time. But as we are collectors, (ignition) system liabilities are not the big issue, sometimes the opposite, as make them rarer. The pistol posted in this thread is a great collectors item. Note that is not a double action but a single action with a 'trick' to double act ... which makes it unique. All the above tale to get me courage to show you a real bizarre ingnition system, one worthy of its author ... a dentist. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=bizarre

25th May 2021, 07:17 PM	#2
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Cap Gun I actually think that was an altogether better system that the perc' caps which you couldn't load with gloved hands and which were also prone to falling off.. Shame they never adapted that system for revolvers. If the cap-roll paper was heavily waxed, and consequently waterproof, and you had multiple pre-loaded cylinders, you were well ahead of the game. Fascinating. Thank-you Fernando: my area of interest indeed.

26th May 2021, 12:02 AM	#4
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Cap Gun Well, well, well, what a surprise: just what I was talking about, up for sale. Attached Images