Pikes, Spears or Lances

[Jim McDougall]

As near as I can tell, these unusual head items are British cavalry lances of pattern 1820. It seems these were found unsatisfactory from being ill balanced in the carry bucket, but more is unclear. In 1827 it was decided to establish a new pattern, with some interest toward French examples from 1815, but the next pattern (1840) did not align with French designs so source unclear.

It would appear that this volume together must be from a regimental armory, possibly of a yeomanry regiment ? as these must have been returned to stores after replacement by the M1840 in the following years.

Source"
"The Cavalry Lance"
Alan Larsen & Henry Yallop, 2017

[Rick]

Thank you, Jim. They look quite unwieldy to me; I wish I could offer more pictures, but there was only this image and I have no idea of the source because I lifted it from an image board.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Rick

Thank you, Jim. They look quite unwieldy to me; I wish I could offer more pictures, but there was only this image and I have no idea of the source because I lifted it from an image board.

You bet Rick!
Quite a grouping there, and I have been trying to locate the panel of drawings I referred to, think it was in "Sword, Lance & Bayonet" , Hopkinson & Ffoulkes 1938....but for sure these are 1820 patterns.

Wish I had one of these, I've still got 5, two 1868 British and the other Bengal Lancers WWI. I recall years ago watching a RCMP (Canadian Mounties) exhibition with lances, pretty impressive!
Then my episode when I picked up two lances at LAX, but, oops, in a corvette driving down the 405 freeway , NOT so impressive!

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Then my episode when I picked up two lances at LAX, but, oops, in a corvette driving down the 405 freeway , NOT so impressive!

Should we assume that you were the only occupant of the vehicle, and thus not driving and deploying the weapon(s) simultaneously? Easier done on a horse as opposed to in an automobile, at any rate. Sadly, this sounds like a pre-YouTube incident.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Philip

Should we assume that you were the only occupant of the vehicle, and thus not driving and deploying the weapon(s) simultaneously? Easier done on a horse as opposed to in an automobile, at any rate. Sadly, this sounds like a pre-YouTube incident.

LOL! Thank you Philip!!! Actually yes, I was, and lost in the hubris of 'the charge' as I barreled down the 405 Freeway!!! The CHP officer who completely foiled my 'charge' was baffled, but lightly amused by my situation as I explained.

This one was up there with my unfortunate and Drambuie laden and inadvertent combat between a tulwar and ceiling fan, very Don Quixote!

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

LOL! Thank you Philip!!! Actually yes, I was, and lost in the hubris of 'the charge' as I barreled down the 405 Freeway!!! The CHP officer who completely foiled my 'charge' was baffled, but lightly amused by my situation as I explained.

This one was up there with my unfortunate and Drambuie laden and inadvertent combat between a tulwar and ceiling fan, very Don Quixote!

Did you recite part of Tennyson's poem about that Crimean encounter? If the officer had any appreciation of literature he would have had to let you go scot-free.

I once killed an oscillating room fan with a stroke from a Qing military saber after watching one too many martial arts films. Fan was on, the blade clove through the wire guard and shattered the plastic fan propeller.

[fernando]

Every time Jim tells this story, i recall bringing two polearms from Rainer Daehnhardt's shop, in which my car (computerized) fuel consumption increased with the mounting of crosswise crates on the car roof ... and lowered back on the way back, due to the aerodinamics of the (wrapped) pointy devices.
No cop interference on the highway, though .

The only accidental marks i have caused are a few scratches in the ceiling when i handle long pole arms before positioning them in the living room walls.


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