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1st May 2021, 09:26 PM
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In addition to what has already been mentioned, I recommend SPLENDEUR DE L'ARMURERIE HONGROISE, a profusely-illustrated 1999 Belgian exhibition catalog of Hungarian arms from the state museums. Scarce, but possible to find. And in a Romance language, not in magyar!
Jim, what does this Transylvanian knot look like? |
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1st May 2021, 10:27 PM
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The 'Transylvanian knot', if I understand correctly, is simply an idiom describing a phrase or group of symbols or words in acronym or combinations thereof which are intended as talismanic or magical imbuement. As I noted, in the 17th and 18th centuries Europe had popularized these kinds of themes on blades in many cases. Addendum: Just found photos of a saber I had, since 1976, but traded it away in the 90s. I bought it from a well known mail order dealer with the 'description' (?) '18th century Hungarian hussar saber. It turned out this was an Arabian saber hilted with a much favored Hungarian blade. I was told the inscription was basically 'jibberish' and non translatable. I was surprised in 2015 to discover this material on the 'Transylvanian knot' which told a lot on these strange words on the blade of this saber. I wish I still had it. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 2nd May 2021 at 01:40 AM. |
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2nd May 2021, 01:42 AM
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Add photos
Adding the photo for previous post as unable to find manage photos attachment in edit.
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12th June 2021, 09:14 AM
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I found this website in English with bits and pieces on Hungarian history as well as arms & armour: https://www.hungarianottomanwars.com/. It has a local flavour with a lot of info not previously known to me. Seems Tokapi Museum is a must if visiting Istanbul. There’s a wealth of fascinating history in Eastern Europe, which was not encouraged during communist times, but now increasingly being re-discovered locally and shared internationally. It’s like missing pieces of puzzle that contribute to seeing the whole picture.
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12th June 2021, 09:41 AM
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As Hungaqry has been a long time part of the Habsburg monarchy the following title might be of interest too. Jirí Protiva, Palase habsburske monarchie, hardcover 193 pages, ISBN 978-80-86783 0-37-6, Hungarian text, at the end of the book desriptions of all pieces in German language. It contents 120 colour prints of swords (pallaschs) of the Habsburg army between 1679 and 1825. For those interested in this kind of arms this book is very commendable.
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13th June 2021, 04:26 PM
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Thank you so very much Udo!! This looks like a most useful reference and great photos. I know what is meant by many of these publications only in the languages where published, but many have taken to including English sub captions and often summary text. |
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13th June 2021, 11:50 PM
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20th June 2021, 10:44 AM
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Hi Jim,
I have this book by Lugosi and Temesvary, found in a charity bookstore last year. It is exclusively in Hungarian which makes it pretty impenetrable but has a great many photos and detailed captions which can be typed into Google Translate. I will take a look and see if I can see any photo or reference to this Transylvanian Knot. Does anyone know the correct term in Hungarian so I can scan the text for it? Regards Jerry |
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