Broad sword without apple, please help with attribution

[Dmitry]

Originally Posted by Raf

This is what one might expect to see on a 13/14 century sword in excavated condition. Note the way the corrosion has etched the steel revealing the pattern of the origional forging caused by impurities in the steel and resulting delamination. Also the characteristic poor fit of the cross guard. I dont see this in this example

I agree. The OP's sword looks like a fake made to look like a relic. There's a lot of that coming from the Eastern Europe these days. I wonder where he acquired the sword.

[Elmereya]

Thank you Dmitry for your opinion, there are enough absurdities in the subject, which of course are visible to me, which is why I showed it here.
with respect

[Elmereya]

however, there is something that makes you want to figure it out to the end,
At first ; the rust on it was a real, thick, strong crust, as in the first photos, and it was removed on its own.
Secondly; the blades on both sides are clogged, dull, but inside the cross-pieces they remain (seen in the photo).
third; I had previously thought that it was shortened, the longitudinal rib could not initially reach the tip.
fourthly; it is not completely cleaned, it must probably be soaked, different things can be seen at different angles of illumination, but they are partially still under a layer of unfinished substance,.
,,, But in general, yes, it does not look right, I agree.
with respect.

[Elmereya]

I wanted to add to the previous post,
in the structure itself there is so much unnecessary non-technological work, this is a stiffener, this crosspiece of the guard, everything is done difficult, if you look from today's time, I am very grateful for your attention to the topic
... with respect

[Elmereya]

Originally Posted by Elmereya

I wanted to add to the previous post,
in the structure itself there is so much unnecessary non-technological work, this is a stiffener, this crosspiece of the guard, everything is done difficult, if you look from today's time, I am very grateful for your attention to the topic
... with respect

In addition, from today's time such a thing may look rough and absurdly "barbaric" even, but only in comparison with exquisitely beautiful counterparts from developed centers.
But take a closer look at this (not ordinary / not correct at first glance) Scandinavian sword of the 13th century.
photo taken from the site
CZERNY'S INTERNATIONAL AUKTION HOUSE S.r. 1.
(in the context of the post).
with respect

[Elmereya]

good afternoon.
I want to thank everyone who expressed their opinion in this old topic.
Based on the material that I showed then, in general, the item was assessed exactly as it looks in the photos that were shown, adequately seen ..

[Elmereya]

I want to share in the continuation of this topic, the result of what eventually turned out after clearing, the surface has rather deep traces of damage and therefore it is rather difficult to choose the right angle of illumination, but in my opinion if you look closely you can see the remains of old letters, there are four such places,

[Raf]

Originally Posted by Dmitry

I agree. The OP's sword looks like a fake made to look like a relic. There's a lot of that coming from the Eastern Europe these days. I wonder where he acquired the sword.

You have posted four swords all of which look like ground finds. It would be good if you could say something about the context in which they were discovered.

[Elmereya]

Originally Posted by Raf

You have posted four swords all of which look like ground finds. It would be good if you could say something about the context in which they were discovered.

good afternoon, within the framework of the forum, this is probably not entirely appropriate,
with respect .