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18th March 2021, 09:35 PM
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Just ottoman,
yes, until we see the tip who isn't turkish at all... |
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18th March 2021, 09:39 PM
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The tip is well done too
+ other picture Were these deco weapons made for house decorations ? wedding gift for the husband in a marriage ... ? |
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18th March 2021, 09:40 PM
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19th March 2021, 07:42 AM
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Hi my friend,
As you said, you like "bling bling" things.  I have a good news and a bad news. IMOH it is Ottoman. But most probably early 20th c. 1900-1920. Like a lot of Indian and Persian daggers on this forum, and as you said, most probably decorative. I don't want to say tourist item, but for sure some Europeans bought some of them as they are very decorative. We have a full thread about your dagger but I cannot find it. Your dagger is probably in tombak and the style is very much Ottoman Turkish. Please look at similar items from the late 19th and early 20th. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...rquoises+coral http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=coral Kind regards, Kubur |
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19th March 2021, 05:26 PM
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Hello,
Thank you Kubur for your comments and links, I hesitate to take all the pieces and transfer it on a kilij I have, If I can get that price  , maybe I have piece enough for the the backside !! Seriously, I find strange that this wonderful piece sold by Christies was ''just''made of gilt copper and not a massive silver scabbard, gold... |
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19th March 2021, 05:26 PM
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19th March 2021, 08:03 PM
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About your joke, you probably noticed that only one side is decorated, always. |
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19th March 2021, 08:42 PM
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 However, it wouldn't be the first time a reputed auction house to sell a rather disputable lot.  Regarding your dagger, it has a very flat blade that was probably cut from sheet/band steel. So I would say it is rather touristy.
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20th March 2021, 08:36 AM
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Hello,
Thank you Kubur and Marius for your reply, Yes as I wrote in the first post, the blade is a decorated simple sheet of steel contrasting ( for me ) with all the work for the scabbard. Perhaps ( maybe certainly ), these semi precious stones and coral were common and massively produced in the region ( Trabzon ??) maybe cheap stuff so craftmen covered all kind of stuff for a low-reasonnable price. I will add that it was fashionable at that time! ( For export in Europe too) ( I know, I'm old fashioned ... )That can explain why we find so many ewer, belt buckles... and muskets, swords with these ornaments, turning them finally just in deco pieces... |
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