Id on these flintlock pistols please!

Fernando K · 5th March 2021, 01:21 PM

Hello}
From what I know of the chiseled (chissel and hamer) the work on the forniture seems to me to be cast. The chisel cuts are neater, and here they are rounded and blurred IMHO it is a tourist piece. It would be necessary to know what material they are, also the lock and the barrel

Affectionately

daggpil · 5th March 2021, 01:58 PM

Hello,

Oh no, they are not casted. Its the real deal (steel) and they are old.

Br/Ulrik

Kubur · 6th March 2021, 06:12 PM

Hi

Don't worry, of course they are old and if you don't want them, call me!
I cracked the origin of this kind of pistol a few years ago,

They are Albanian for the North African market

please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=montenegro

Ulcinj was a town to the South of Montenegro and an Albanian centre of pistols production. The town had trade links with Egypt and Tunisia.
Albanesi traders and merceneries worked notably with egypt, Tunisa and Algeria

Post 13

M ELEY · 7th March 2021, 12:56 AM

Excellent pistols indeed! These types might have seen service with the Corsairs as well!

daggpil · 8th March 2021, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi

Don't worry, of course they are old and if you don't want them, call me!
I cracked the origin of this kind of pistol a few years ago,

They are Albanian for the North African market

please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=montenegro

Ulcinj was a town to the South of Montenegro and an Albanian centre of pistols production. The town had trade links with Egypt and Tunisia.
Albanesi traders and merceneries worked notably with egypt, Tunisa and Algeria

Post 13

GREAT NEWS! Thank you! Finally I know what they are from and can they be dated? My guess is the second half och the 18th century or beginning of 19th. Best regards/Ulrik S

Rick · 8th March 2021, 04:07 PM

It's nice to see some brethren to my example.
I would not be surprised at all Mark if some of these wound up in the hands of Barbary Corsairs.
This is the first pair that I've seen posted here since 2015; I'd guess that they're fairly uncommon.

M ELEY · 9th March 2021, 03:18 PM

Oh, I remember your amazing piece, Rick!! Remember me in your will someday!

These are amazing guns that transcend the 'rougher' examples sometimes produced in the Mediterranean for the N. African markets.

Rick · 10th March 2021, 02:08 AM

I appreciate your offer Mark.

This gun was collected by one of my ancestors, Harrison W. Smith (Uncle Harry) who has a botanical garden named for him in Tahiti.
He got around quite a bit; also wrote an article or two for the early issues of National Geographic; one on the Philippines iirc. Hopefully one of my grandsons will take an interest in it along with some of my edged weapons.

5th March 2021, 01:21 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello} From what I know of the chiseled (chissel and hamer) the work on the forniture seems to me to be cast. The chisel cuts are neater, and here they are rounded and blurred IMHO it is a tourist piece. It would be necessary to know what material they are, also the lock and the barrel Affectionately

5th March 2021, 01:58 PM	#2
daggpil Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 25	Hello, Oh no, they are not casted. Its the real deal (steel) and they are old. Br/Ulrik

6th March 2021, 06:12 PM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Don't worry, of course they are old and if you don't want them, call me! I cracked the origin of this kind of pistol a few years ago, They are Albanian for the North African market please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=montenegro Ulcinj was a town to the South of Montenegro and an Albanian centre of pistols production. The town had trade links with Egypt and Tunisia. Albanesi traders and merceneries worked notably with egypt, Tunisa and Algeria Post 13

7th March 2021, 12:56 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Excellent pistols indeed! These types might have seen service with the Corsairs as well!

8th March 2021, 04:07 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	It's nice to see some brethren to my example. I would not be surprised at all Mark if some of these wound up in the hands of Barbary Corsairs. This is the first pair that I've seen posted here since 2015; I'd guess that they're fairly uncommon.

9th March 2021, 03:18 PM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Oh, I remember your amazing piece, Rick!! Remember me in your will someday! These are amazing guns that transcend the 'rougher' examples sometimes produced in the Mediterranean for the N. African markets.

10th March 2021, 02:08 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I appreciate your offer Mark. This gun was collected by one of my ancestors, Harrison W. Smith (Uncle Harry) who has a botanical garden named for him in Tahiti. He got around quite a bit; also wrote an article or two for the early issues of National Geographic; one on the Philippines iirc. Hopefully one of my grandsons will take an interest in it along with some of my edged weapons.