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			also I have to post this.. Abraxas...   it is  rooster related,,  whats he holding?  just curiously similar shapes and form in general. I dont know of any connection yet, but. it gets me thinking,
		 
		
		
		
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			never mind i actually just answered my own question.  
		
		
		
			curious it also resemble most double headed eagles such as in masonry or heraldry .  | 
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			the two headed bird is now flying in the air (multiples small swirls)
		 
		
		
		
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			here is a different example of the symbol on a Jian called ceremonial late qing
		 
		
		
		
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			I cant find any confirmation the Jian bird is actually related to the name Jian given to the sword, but it seems obvious.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			even the myth about two birds coming together relates to the weapon and the user. that each member of the pair must join together if they are to fulfil their potential. the sword needs a wielder, and the wielder needs a sword. humans don't have claws, fangs, spikes or poison(or spurs like a chicken/rooster ), were evolved to wield a weapon. Last edited by JoeCanada42; 1st March 2021 at 04:23 AM.  | 
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			now this is just random musings at this point and will be the last though i share for today. hopefully someone will step in and say something sensible.   in the latest jian sword I posted there is the flying dragon facing the Jian bird. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			i find that cute as the dragon could be seen to represent a dinosaur, and we are even learning dinosaurs have feathers, infact dinosaurs turned into birds, the rooster/chicken is infact the closest related animal to the Trex. Roosters lost theyre fangs and claws and gained a spur, humans made our own spurs(blade weapons), we defeated the dragons and beasts in nature and now we rule the world. when at one point Trex was on top. Last edited by JoeCanada42; 1st March 2021 at 09:56 PM.  | 
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			I found an Italian sword I have a photo of, I will post when possible, it is for sale... it has an eagle heraldic,  the tail and the wings are very similar to the jian.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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