African sword, Unusual Handle, Akokonan? or?

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 01:56 AM

I found weapons from India with the rooster but they are for sale so I wont post them.
Currently I am looking at Chinese swords for any influence of the rooster. I will post 4 pictures, one is a two handed bronze age iron sword with a unique handle, not similar, but it kind of shows the evolution of the handle shapes I think.
the sword with the antenna handle was called a Balkan celt sword, the third sword is an old Chinese sword with simply a similar blade shape, the forth and fifth photos are Jian swords, and I am very curious about the cut out symbol motifs wich vary between swords. Some Jian swords have the motif which looks very like the akoko nan. I am looking to find a Jian with symbol exactly like the akokonan to share I saw one on a YouTube video about a Ming sword.

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 02:10 AM

I think the Jian sword is associated with a bird the Jian, which has interesting myth, it is a bird that has one wing and one eye and needs to find its mate in order to fly.

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 02:16 AM

also I have to post this.. Abraxas... it is rooster related,, whats he holding? just curiously similar shapes and form in general. I dont know of any connection yet, but. it gets me thinking,

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 02:23 AM

never mind i actually just answered my own question.
curious it also resemble most double headed eagles such as in masonry or heraldry .

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 02:38 AM

the two headed bird is now flying in the air (multiples small swirls)

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 03:50 AM

here is a different example of the symbol on a Jian called ceremonial late qing

JoeCanada42 · 1st March 2021, 04:12 AM

I cant find any confirmation the Jian bird is actually related to the name Jian given to the sword, but it seems obvious.
even the myth about two birds coming together relates to the weapon and the user.

that each member of the pair must join together if they are to fulfil their potential.

the sword needs a wielder, and the wielder needs a sword.

humans don't have claws, fangs, spikes or poison(or spurs like a chicken/rooster ), were evolved to wield a weapon.

1st March 2021, 01:56 AM	#1
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	I found weapons from India with the rooster but they are for sale so I wont post them. Currently I am looking at Chinese swords for any influence of the rooster. I will post 4 pictures, one is a two handed bronze age iron sword with a unique handle, not similar, but it kind of shows the evolution of the handle shapes I think. the sword with the antenna handle was called a Balkan celt sword, the third sword is an old Chinese sword with simply a similar blade shape, the forth and fifth photos are Jian swords, and I am very curious about the cut out symbol motifs wich vary between swords. Some Jian swords have the motif which looks very like the akoko nan. I am looking to find a Jian with symbol exactly like the akokonan to share I saw one on a YouTube video about a Ming sword. Attached Images

1st March 2021, 02:16 AM	#3
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	also I have to post this.. Abraxas... it is rooster related,, whats he holding? just curiously similar shapes and form in general. I dont know of any connection yet, but. it gets me thinking, Attached Images

1st March 2021, 02:23 AM	#4
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	never mind i actually just answered my own question. curious it also resemble most double headed eagles such as in masonry or heraldry . Attached Images

1st March 2021, 02:38 AM	#5
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	the two headed bird is now flying in the air (multiples small swirls) Attached Images

1st March 2021, 03:50 AM	#6
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	here is a different example of the symbol on a Jian called ceremonial late qing Attached Images

1st March 2021, 02:10 AM	#2
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	I think the Jian sword is associated with a bird the Jian, which has interesting myth, it is a bird that has one wing and one eye and needs to find its mate in order to fly.

1st March 2021, 04:12 AM	#7
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	I cant find any confirmation the Jian bird is actually related to the name Jian given to the sword, but it seems obvious. even the myth about two birds coming together relates to the weapon and the user. that each member of the pair must join together if they are to fulfil their potential. the sword needs a wielder, and the wielder needs a sword. humans don't have claws, fangs, spikes or poison(or spurs like a chicken/rooster ), were evolved to wield a weapon. Last edited by JoeCanada42; 1st March 2021 at 04:23 AM.