British sabre with ivory grip

Norman McCormick · 4th January 2021, 09:15 PM

Hi,
Here is an image of the Osborn's Warranted logo on an officers 1796 L.C. sabre manufactured between 1796 and 1801.
Regards,
Norman.

Will M · 4th January 2021, 11:07 PM

I would assume a warranted sword would rarely be warranted.
If the blade broke during battle slim chance of you surviving.
A good looking sword!

Jim McDougall · 4th January 2021, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will M

I would assume a warranted sword would rarely be warranted.
If the blade broke during battle slim chance of you surviving.
A good looking sword!

True Will, its like the old parachute axiom, if it fails to open, take it back.

However, the idea is, I want to know the sword will prevail BEFORE I take it into battle. There had been long periods of terrible blade making in England, and Gill et al, decided it was time to stop depending on Germany for blades and build the English reputation.

First three pics are a Thomas Gill M1788 cavalry saber, warranted on blade back.
The ivory hilt saber is M1796 yeomanry officer with curious saber knot bar near cross guard. These yeomanry officers had even more latitude than regular regiments officers so the individuality was notable.

These examples are not in great condition but just illustrations of the forms.

ariel · 7th January 2021, 04:28 AM

Well, if it fails during the sword fight, the owner wold be unlikely to go to the maker for a refund.

kronckew · 7th January 2021, 07:35 AM

When I was a cadet, we had a 'pass in review' parade in front of the College's Commanding Admiral and his guests, every Saturday morning before we went on liberty. As a First class (4th year) Cadet Asst. Platoon Officer, I was 'armed' with a std. Naval officer's sword, as were the other regimental officers. The other Cadets carried Springfield 1903A3 (The members of the Pershing Rifles Drill team had M1 Garands for drills and demos. (I was a 'Pershing Rifle myself)

Anyhow, I recall one Saturday as the platoon ahead of mine passed the Admiral, their Platoon officers flourished their sword in salute. I gathered later that the Platoon leader and his assistant, who were room-mates, got their swords mixed up - the swords were assigned specific lengths based on the wearer's height (mine was 29in.) so they would not touch the ground during use (saluting). The swords were nice shiny stainless steel. Anyway the Taller officer wound up with the shorter sword, and his shorter companion had the slightly longer one. He hit the ground right in front of the Admiral. The blade snapped about halfway. Rather embarrassed and red-faced, he continued the salute and the parade as if he still had a complete sword.

The remaining platoons passed the admiral, with the quite obvious half blade sticking up from the short grass a few feet in front of the Admiral. Luckily they were issue and not private purchase, so he turned in the broken bits and got a replacement. He had survived THAT use of a sword. We reminded them of it frequently.

Taught me to never buy a Stainless steel sword.

After commissioning, I bought a Carbon steel one for myself.

David R · 19th January 2021, 12:32 PM

Anyone else remember this one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0dRcdyizU

Radboud · 26th November 2021, 11:09 AM

Daggpil,
Can you share a photo of the figure above the warranted line? I think I see an anchor behind his feet which could signify this sword was for a navy officer.
Cheers
Bas

4th January 2021, 09:15 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi, Here is an image of the Osborn's Warranted logo on an officers 1796 L.C. sabre manufactured between 1796 and 1801. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

4th January 2021, 11:07 PM	#2
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 394	I would assume a warranted sword would rarely be warranted. If the blade broke during battle slim chance of you surviving. A good looking sword!

7th January 2021, 04:28 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well, if it fails during the sword fight, the owner wold be unlikely to go to the maker for a refund.

7th January 2021, 07:35 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	When I was a cadet, we had a 'pass in review' parade in front of the College's Commanding Admiral and his guests, every Saturday morning before we went on liberty. As a First class (4th year) Cadet Asst. Platoon Officer, I was 'armed' with a std. Naval officer's sword, as were the other regimental officers. The other Cadets carried Springfield 1903A3 (The members of the Pershing Rifles Drill team had M1 Garands for drills and demos. (I was a 'Pershing Rifle myself) Anyhow, I recall one Saturday as the platoon ahead of mine passed the Admiral, their Platoon officers flourished their sword in salute. I gathered later that the Platoon leader and his assistant, who were room-mates, got their swords mixed up - the swords were assigned specific lengths based on the wearer's height (mine was 29in.) so they would not touch the ground during use (saluting). The swords were nice shiny stainless steel. Anyway the Taller officer wound up with the shorter sword, and his shorter companion had the slightly longer one. He hit the ground right in front of the Admiral. The blade snapped about halfway. Rather embarrassed and red-faced, he continued the salute and the parade as if he still had a complete sword. The remaining platoons passed the admiral, with the quite obvious half blade sticking up from the short grass a few feet in front of the Admiral. Luckily they were issue and not private purchase, so he turned in the broken bits and got a replacement. He had survived THAT use of a sword. We reminded them of it frequently. Taught me to never buy a Stainless steel sword. After commissioning, I bought a Carbon steel one for myself.

19th January 2021, 12:32 PM	#6
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,116	Anyone else remember this one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0dRcdyizU

26th November 2021, 11:09 AM	#7
Radboud Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 276	Daggpil, Can you share a photo of the figure above the warranted line? I think I see an anchor behind his feet which could signify this sword was for a navy officer. Cheers Bas