Thick Ganja keris

A. G. Maisey · 22nd December 2020, 07:27 PM

No, it is not Jenggolo, but this thick gonjo is an indicator of a better than usual keris.

A Jenggolo keris usually has no steel core, the iron is without grain, it is very black and very padat, the top of the gonjo has a slight curve, blumbangan boto adeg, no vein. There are a number of other indicators, but this is sufficient to disallow this keris as Jenggolo.

I think most people would give it as Tuban, or at least North Coast, but all the same, its a pretty nice keris. A thick gonjo like this is usually taken as a sign of quality.

Bejo · 22nd December 2020, 11:00 PM

Thank you very much for your explanation

jagabuwana · 25th December 2020, 04:47 AM

A nice keris! I like it

Bejo · 27th December 2020, 01:26 PM

thank you,

I also like this keris

Jean · 28th December 2020, 09:51 AM

I attach the pic of a similar blade with a thick ganja, personally I think that these blades lack elegance but this is just my personal taste...
Best regards and wishes for 2021

A. G. Maisey · 28th December 2020, 12:13 PM

Of course they do Jean. I totally agree.

But some of the people I have known during my lifetime who had unimpeachable integrity also lacked elegance.

Whereas some of the most elegant people I have known were amongst the most untrustworthy.

In appraising the feeling generated by a keris we call upon the experience we have had in appraising people, so it becomes almost entirely an understanding of the feeling that both the keris & the person generates in us, and this probably comes back to the socio-cultural base that we are working from.

Jean · 28th December 2020, 01:14 PM

Hello Alan,
I am glad that your share my aesthetical point of view and I agree with you that some ugly-looking people are or were quite irreproachable (De Gaulle for instance).

Rafngard · 28th December 2020, 05:01 PM

Alan,

Thank you for this.
I think there's an important lesson here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Of course they do Jean. I totally agree.

But some of the people I have known during my lifetime who had unimpeachable integrity also lacked elegance.

Whereas some of the most elegant people I have known were amongst the most untrustworthy.

In appraising the feeling generated by a keris we call upon the experience we have had in appraising people, so it becomes almost entirely an understanding of the feeling that both the keris & the person generates in us, and this probably comes back to the socio-cultural base that we are working from.

28th December 2020, 09:51 AM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I attach the pic of a similar blade with a thick ganja, personally I think that these blades lack elegance but this is just my personal taste... Best regards and wishes for 2021 Attached Images

28th December 2020, 01:14 PM	#7
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alan, I am glad that your share my aesthetical point of view and I agree with you that some ugly-looking people are or were quite irreproachable (De Gaulle for instance). Last edited by Jean; 28th December 2020 at 05:45 PM.

22nd December 2020, 07:27 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,053	No, it is not Jenggolo, but this thick gonjo is an indicator of a better than usual keris. A Jenggolo keris usually has no steel core, the iron is without grain, it is very black and very padat, the top of the gonjo has a slight curve, blumbangan boto adeg, no vein. There are a number of other indicators, but this is sufficient to disallow this keris as Jenggolo. I think most people would give it as Tuban, or at least North Coast, but all the same, its a pretty nice keris. A thick gonjo like this is usually taken as a sign of quality.

22nd December 2020, 11:00 PM	#2
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Thank you very much for your explanation

25th December 2020, 04:47 AM	#3
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 291	A nice keris! I like it

27th December 2020, 01:26 PM	#4
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	thank you, I also like this keris

28th December 2020, 12:13 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,053	Of course they do Jean. I totally agree. But some of the people I have known during my lifetime who had unimpeachable integrity also lacked elegance. Whereas some of the most elegant people I have known were amongst the most untrustworthy. In appraising the feeling generated by a keris we call upon the experience we have had in appraising people, so it becomes almost entirely an understanding of the feeling that both the keris & the person generates in us, and this probably comes back to the socio-cultural base that we are working from.