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Old 17th November 2020, 12:46 AM   #1
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It does look to me based on the patina and color hue that the triple crown at the base is brass.
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Old 17th November 2020, 09:48 AM   #2
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Thank you Kai for your kind message !
The infos are really helpful !

For the brass(?) 3+ crowns,
I just wonder if the all gold mounted multi crowns sikin panjangs were just ceremonials weapons ( with the ivory scabbard...)

and the brass mounted, less soft than gold , for ''real battle weapons''
as the samuraïs did when they alternate the koshirae on their swords
between battle/ceremonial

I read too about suasa gold and the islamic position about to much gold on weapons, maybe there is a clue here ?...
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Old 17th November 2020, 02:50 PM   #3
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Here three other pictures for share,

The whole sword, with daylight pictures, always better...

and one of the scabbard as you mentioned Kai,
with interesting inscriptions, the shape for an islamic sourate but no text/ sentences...
talismanic ?

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Old 17th November 2020, 05:15 PM   #4
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Hello Franc,

Thanks for the additional pics!

How thoroughly did you clean the calyx? Please check whether the dark recesses of the motifs hold remnants of enamel or plain dirt...


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and one of the scabbard as you mentioned Kai,
with interesting inscriptions, the shape for an islamic sourate but no text/ sentences...
talismanic ?
That's the widely held default assumption.

Nothing on the backside?

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Old 17th November 2020, 06:24 PM   #5
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Hello Franc,

Thanks for the additional pics!

How thoroughly did you clean the calyx? Please check whether the dark recesses of the motifs hold remnants of enamel or plain dirt...



That's the widely held default assumption.

Nothing on the backside?

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Hello Kai,

No, nothing on the other side, ( except floral design ...)

For the calyx, no enamel under the dark dirt,
same structure-color than the first crown.

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