IVORY FOR POMMEL

xasterix · 15th October 2020, 03:45 AM

Here are other samples, from another friend's collection. The one with the reddish hilt intrigues me, as it's a standout from the other ivory-looking samples. One of the hilts is also unique, having a string of hawk bells tied from the base of the pommel up to the gangya as a makeshift guard.

TIA for anyone who'll assess! Much appreciated.

Battara · 15th October 2020, 03:59 AM

Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this.

The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown.

I find the T'boli bells interesting.

xasterix · 15th October 2020, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this.

The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown.

I find the T'boli bells interesting.

Thanks sir! Here are "raw" pre-restoration pics of the hawkbell-guard kris.

Rafngard · 16th October 2020, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Thanks sir! Here are "raw" pre-restoration pics of the hawkbell-guard kris.

That is a really interesting piece. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it.

Battara · 17th October 2020, 07:21 AM

This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?

xasterix · 13th May 2021, 09:21 AM

Hello everyone...would like to ask your opinions on this pommel. I'm still in the process of restoring the rest of the kris, but I suspect this is ivory. Would appreciate your inputs, thanks!

Athanase · 13th May 2021, 11:44 AM

It's clearly Elephant ivory. Very nice patina.

15th October 2020, 03:45 AM	#1
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 707	Here are other samples, from another friend's collection. The one with the reddish hilt intrigues me, as it's a standout from the other ivory-looking samples. One of the hilts is also unique, having a string of hawk bells tied from the base of the pommel up to the gangya as a makeshift guard. TIA for anyone who'll assess! Much appreciated. Attached Images

13th May 2021, 09:21 AM	#6
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 707	Hello everyone...would like to ask your opinions on this pommel. I'm still in the process of restoring the rest of the kris, but I suspect this is ivory. Would appreciate your inputs, thanks! Attached Images

15th October 2020, 03:59 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this. The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown. I find the T'boli bells interesting.

17th October 2020, 07:21 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?

13th May 2021, 11:44 AM	#7
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 432	It's clearly Elephant ivory. Very nice patina.