Help on what I just bought....

[Duccio]

Health to all,
maybe it has nothing to do with it, but I couldn't help but notice an extraordinary similarity between these dagger canes put up for auction and the sword mentioned in these posts.
The angle formed by the horse's foot is different, but the horseshoe is there ... is it a "blade change"?

Duccio

[Tim Simmons]

Cool very much in the same taste for posh hunting types.

[blindside]

Originally Posted by Duccio

Health to all,
maybe it has nothing to do with it, but I couldn't help but notice an extraordinary similarity between these dagger canes put up for auction and the sword mentioned in these posts.
The angle formed by the horse's foot is different, but the horseshoe is there ... is it a "blade change"?

Duccio

Any background on these pieces? I do admit the style is similar.

[Duccio]

Originally Posted by blindside

Any background on these pieces? I do admit the style is similar.

Very vague description, auction-style ...
"Two horse hoof-form dagger canes Various dates mid to late 19th century Comprising a horn and bamboo dagger cane, the carved horn handle in the form of a horse hoof with steel-cut bead nails, the 13-inch Solingen-style steel blade unsheathed by release button at collar, with modern rubber ferrule; and a horn and spotted bamboo dagger cane, the carved horn handle in the form of a horse hoof with tortoiseshell horseshoe and steel-cut bead nails, the 12-inch steel blade unsheathed by release button at white metal filigree collar, modern rubber ferrule over original horn ferrule. (2).L 36 in. (longest) PROVENANCE: The collection of award-winning independent film director Larry Clark, New York."

we ask Larry?

[blindside]

As a bit of an update, today a modern Filipino maker publicized pictures of his reproduction matulis. It certainly shares many of the characteristics of my blade. I am trying to find if he based his reproduction on any particular piece. The maker is Illocano Traditional Blades. https://www.facebook.com/ar.cie.167

So mystery largely solved!

[David R]

I think you are to be congratulated, taking a punt and winning indeed.

[blindside]

Ilocano Traditional Blades said this about his sword:

this blade sir is a rice-leaf blade shape that we called it BULONG PAGAY in ilocano. This blade sir is used among katipunan bolos to cut or used for fighting to their enemies and the handle is inspired by the horse hoof. The origin of this blade sir is from northern Luzon

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by blindside

Ilocano Traditional Blades said this about his sword:

this blade sir is a rice-leaf blade shape that we called it BULONG PAGAY in ilocano. This blade sir is used among katipunan bolos to cut or used for fighting to their enemies and the handle is inspired by the horse hoof. The origin of this blade sir is from northern Luzon

Sorry to burst the bubble, blindside. The ILT proprietor is a friend of mine...but he has very limited traditional blade knowledge. The blade that you posted actually isn't endemic to the Ilocanos...it has a backstory.

Several years back, the governor of Ilocos saw the Ars Cives Macau Exhibition, wherein several PH swords were exhibited and erroneously labeled as Ilocos- when actually they came from other Luzon areas such as Batangas and Cavite. Inspired by what he thought of as Ilocos swords, that governor had the ILT guys make reproductions of what he thought were Ilocos-provenanced blades.

The rest...is history. I've told ILT the facts, but of course it won't do well with marketing, and they're hesitant to back out of designs which they were told were originally Ilocano.

I'm of half Ilocano lineage myself, but in this matter, I believe things must be straightened out, in deference to the other Luzon pandays.

As for your blade...I don't really know where it is from. A lot of friends have debated over it, and their consensus is that it's not of PH provenance due to certain construction indicators.