wahabite(?) dagger for comments

francantolin · 7th September 2020, 05:55 PM

Hello,

Thank you everybody for your message,

Kubur, why not comment ? Merci pour ta réponse

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I don't think it's the same stuff / glass but exactly the same design,
maybe another mix of molded glass/pâte de verre, less shiny and thicker...

Sure, it's difficult/impossible? to carve the stars with the central dot on a stone
...

Kind regards

francantolin · 7th September 2020, 07:57 PM

just for share,

this pendant I bought time ago,
coming from turkmenistan
I'm sure this time: with a carved cornelian stone

Kind regards and thank you everybody for your comments

Tatyana Dianova · 8th September 2020, 09:19 AM

The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.
Hajj beads are worn by Muslims who have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, These are made from a gorgeous crimson glass with Arabic writing and symbols.
These beads are made in the Czech Republic (former Czechoslovakia) especially for pilgrims to Mecca.
Only those who have made the journey (the hajj) are entitled to wear them, but the beads sometimes find their way into traders' pouches and are sold to non-pilgrims.

Kubur · 8th September 2020, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.

Extremely interesting
Do you know if they were designed for the Ottoman / Turkish market too?
(with the flag)

francantolin · 8th September 2020, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.
Hajj beads are worn by Muslims who have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, These are made from a gorgeous crimson glass with Arabic writing and symbols.
These beads are made in the Czech Republic (former Czechoslovakia) especially for pilgrims to Mecca.
Only those who have made the journey (the hajj) are entitled to wear them, but the beads sometimes find their way into traders' pouches and are sold to non-pilgrims.

Didn't know these Hadj beads !

Thanks a lot Tatyana !!!

7th September 2020, 07:57 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	just for share, this pendant I bought time ago, coming from turkmenistan I'm sure this time: with a carved cornelian stone Kind regards and thank you everybody for your comments Attached Images

7th September 2020, 05:55 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	Hello, Thank you everybody for your message, Kubur, why not comment ? Merci pour ta réponse , I don't think it's the same stuff / glass but exactly the same design, maybe another mix of molded glass/pâte de verre, less shiny and thicker... Sure, it's difficult/impossible? to carve the stars with the central dot on a stone ... Kind regards

8th September 2020, 09:19 AM	#3
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 741	The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well. Hajj beads are worn by Muslims who have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, These are made from a gorgeous crimson glass with Arabic writing and symbols. These beads are made in the Czech Republic (former Czechoslovakia) especially for pilgrims to Mecca. Only those who have made the journey (the hajj) are entitled to wear them, but the beads sometimes find their way into traders' pouches and are sold to non-pilgrims.