wahabite(?) dagger for comments

francantolin · 5th September 2020, 10:14 AM

Hello Stu,

Thank you for the link for the Dharia daggers,

sure wahabite weapons doesn't mean a lot !
( but that's what I found on the net ! !!

... )

Yemen origin was not bad,

So if I'm right it's a rashaq hilt with a nafihi blade

Has somebody an advice/informations about age ?,
maybe the scabbard end has been changed/repaired.

Any comments welcomed about the carved stone ?
I find it nice and original but maybe it's common for the dharias ?

What do you think of the hilt/horn ?

Kind regards

Michael Blalock · 5th September 2020, 12:54 PM

The stone with a carving is unusual. It could represent the conjunction of the Moon, Venus and the Pleiades. Not sure of the significance but it does happen from time to time.

francantolin · 5th September 2020, 08:25 PM

Hello,

Thank you Michael for your message,

It make me think to the Islamic / Ottoman empire flag, ( ore the turkish or tunisian flag )
same crescent but with more stars !...

kahnjar1 · 6th September 2020, 03:56 AM

The hilt of your Dharia is IMHO SHBEYL not Rashaq. The blade looks to have been filed and could not be called Nafihi as they are rhomboid shape (no central ridge) and highly polished. I would just call it "a blade", probably a locally made Yemeni one.
Ref the scabbard tip,....it looks to me to be a standard original one, though a better pic of it would help.
Stu

francantolin · 6th September 2020, 09:05 PM

Hello,

Here other pictures of the blade, not that bad for me !
it looks like a Kurdish blade I have,
( maybe a pattern, I have to polish and try to etch it )

Diamond section blade, not symetric, larger on one side so that's what is called a rhomboid for me.

Is Nafihi blade style made like some assymetric Kindjal blades ?
Glad if you put please a picture of a Nafihi blade just for know how it's done.

francantolin · 6th September 2020, 09:06 PM

and the scabbard

Kind regards

kahnjar1 · 6th September 2020, 09:13 PM

Thanks for the extra pics. The blade looks MUCH better in the new pics. Sorry I do not have a pic of a Nafihi blade.
The scabbard end looks to be original.
Stu

Bob A · 6th September 2020, 10:42 PM

Quite attractive silver work on the hilt and top of scabbard. The square piece with the carved carnelian is very reminiscent of some Central Asian jewelry pieces we have. While carnelian is common in this jewelry, I have not seen a carved stone therein.

Kubur · 7th September 2020, 08:53 AM

I can't resist to comment!

This is not a stone but a red molded glass.

Here an Iraki khanjar with the same glasses from 1900-1920.

The old Yemeni flag has a moon and a star.

What is the common point between Yemen and Irak? Ottoman occupation

6th September 2020, 03:56 AM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	The hilt of your Dharia is IMHO SHBEYL not Rashaq. The blade looks to have been filed and could not be called Nafihi as they are rhomboid shape (no central ridge) and highly polished. I would just call it "a blade", probably a locally made Yemeni one. Ref the scabbard tip,....it looks to me to be a standard original one, though a better pic of it would help. Stu Last edited by kahnjar1; 6th September 2020 at 06:04 AM.

6th September 2020, 09:05 PM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	Hello, Here other pictures of the blade, not that bad for me ! it looks like a Kurdish blade I have, ( maybe a pattern, I have to polish and try to etch it ) Diamond section blade, not symetric, larger on one side so that's what is called a rhomboid for me. Is Nafihi blade style made like some assymetric Kindjal blades ? Glad if you put please a picture of a Nafihi blade just for know how it's done. Attached Images

6th September 2020, 09:06 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	and the scabbard Kind regards Attached Images

7th September 2020, 08:53 AM	#9
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I can't resist to comment! This is not a stone but a red molded glass. Here an Iraki khanjar with the same glasses from 1900-1920. The old Yemeni flag has a moon and a star. What is the common point between Yemen and Irak? Ottoman occupation Attached Images

5th September 2020, 10:14 AM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	Hello Stu, Thank you for the link for the Dharia daggers, sure wahabite weapons doesn't mean a lot ! ( but that's what I found on the net ! !! ... ) Yemen origin was not bad, So if I'm right it's a rashaq hilt with a nafihi blade Has somebody an advice/informations about age ?, maybe the scabbard end has been changed/repaired. Any comments welcomed about the carved stone ? I find it nice and original but maybe it's common for the dharias ? What do you think of the hilt/horn ? Kind regards

5th September 2020, 12:54 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	The stone with a carving is unusual. It could represent the conjunction of the Moon, Venus and the Pleiades. Not sure of the significance but it does happen from time to time.

5th September 2020, 08:25 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 911	Hello, Thank you Michael for your message, It make me think to the Islamic / Ottoman empire flag, ( ore the turkish or tunisian flag ) same crescent but with more stars !...

6th September 2020, 09:13 PM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	Thanks for the extra pics. The blade looks MUCH better in the new pics. Sorry I do not have a pic of a Nafihi blade. The scabbard end looks to be original. Stu

6th September 2020, 10:42 PM	#8
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 443	Quite attractive silver work on the hilt and top of scabbard. The square piece with the carved carnelian is very reminiscent of some Central Asian jewelry pieces we have. While carnelian is common in this jewelry, I have not seen a carved stone therein.