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Kubur · 15th May 2020, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hombre

Thank you so very much guys for your opinions!
I really appreciate it! You are the best!!

/Stefan

am I the best or Motan?

Thanks for your kind comments

motan · 15th May 2020, 09:25 PM

Yes, you do have my attention. The perforation does make it probable that your dagger is from Palestine. It is worth noting that in Ottoman times, modern borders between Syria, Lebanon and Jordan did not exist and there was a cultural continuum between areas.
Much is still unknown. For example, the three daggers in the last picture are thought by some to be North Palestinian or Lebanese, while others say they come from the Gaza area - I have seen one with Gaza written on the blade.
Anyway, you have a nice and quite uncommon type. I added few from my own collection with perforated blades that are of somewhat later date.

Kubur · 4th June 2020, 02:15 PM

Another one... not mine... but with the same kind of blade...
with a cowboy shoe pommel

motan · 4th June 2020, 03:55 PM

Hi Kubur,
A nice one. Those with hooked pommel instead of a horse/camel head tend to be of better quality (earlier??). Funny that central ridge. I have one like that. It is not a part of the forging, but there are no signs that it has been soldered on the blade either.

Finally, these daggers are small and primitive and their origin is unknown beyond "likely from somewhere in Palestine". But they have been there for a while and some even have something like a reasonably forge blade.

I see that you are trying to throw us by mixing different discussions (cowboy boot??)

15th May 2020, 09:25 PM	#2
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Yes, you do have my attention. The perforation does make it probable that your dagger is from Palestine. It is worth noting that in Ottoman times, modern borders between Syria, Lebanon and Jordan did not exist and there was a cultural continuum between areas. Much is still unknown. For example, the three daggers in the last picture are thought by some to be North Palestinian or Lebanese, while others say they come from the Gaza area - I have seen one with Gaza written on the blade. Anyway, you have a nice and quite uncommon type. I added few from my own collection with perforated blades that are of somewhat later date. Attached Images

4th June 2020, 02:15 PM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Another one... not mine... but with the same kind of blade... with a cowboy shoe pommel Attached Images

4th June 2020, 03:55 PM	#4
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi Kubur, A nice one. Those with hooked pommel instead of a horse/camel head tend to be of better quality (earlier??). Funny that central ridge. I have one like that. It is not a part of the forging, but there are no signs that it has been soldered on the blade either. Finally, these daggers are small and primitive and their origin is unknown beyond "likely from somewhere in Palestine". But they have been there for a while and some even have something like a reasonably forge blade. I see that you are trying to throw us by mixing different discussions (cowboy boot??) Attached Images