What is this sword? Possibly British 1800s ...

David R · 7th May 2020, 10:48 AM

Very blurry photo's and too much hand, not enough sword. You might be lucky, but it would be better to have clear pic's and taken in the manner of a police ID set. Full face, left profile, right profile etc.... However, I am getting a British vibe from what I can see.

fernando · 7th May 2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David R

Very blurry photo's and too much hand, not enough sword. You might be lucky, but it would be better to have clear pic's and taken in the manner of a police ID set. Full face, left profile, right profile etc ...

Amen to that David

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ConfederateCanuck · 7th May 2020, 02:16 PM

I agree the photos are blurry, but the guard is very clear to see. Wouldn't that be the biggest clue?

In the meantime, I will ask for photos. Thanks.

corrado26 · 7th May 2020, 02:29 PM

What I can say is that this sabre is probably not French, German or Austrian, but perhaps British.

ConfederateCanuck · 7th May 2020, 02:47 PM

Thanks for your opinion. We have two opinions that match (British). I started looking online at British swords from the 1800s and I can definitely see the similarities.

The information from the Forum has already proved useful! Hopefully, we can get this identified...that would be really great. My friend has had this sword for 40 years and he never really was sure of what it was or how to even find out.

He also had a musket, which he was told was from the War of 1812 (the one in North America). Being far more knowledgeable about antique muskets than I am about swords (almost zero knowledge), I was able to almost instantly identify it as an Austrian 1842 Pattern Musket, which most definitely was NOT used in 1812. These items had been passed down several generations through his family, but not the correct facts it seems.

By the way, I am a regular contributor on an American Civil War Forum (though I am a Canadian), so if anyone has questions about weapons from that conflict, message me and I will do my best to give/get you answers.

fernando · 7th May 2020, 03:49 PM

Welcome to the forum, Canuck ... and thank you for your offer concerning Civil War Weaponry info.
Can you show us that musket you are talking about ?

ConfederateCanuck · 7th May 2020, 04:19 PM

Since the opinions are tending to suggest a British origin for the sword, is there any way to change the title of this thread to attract those with British sword expertise?

fernando · 7th May 2020, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ConfederateCanuck

Since the opinions are tending to suggest a British origin for the sword, is there any way to change the title of this thread to attract those with British sword expertise?

Tell us the new title you wish to change to; we shall see to that.

corrado26 · 7th May 2020, 04:31 PM

In case it is really an Austrian M 1842 infantry gun it must have a percussion lock with the AUGUSTIN system.

ConfederateCanuck · 7th May 2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

In case it is really an Austrian M 1842 infantry gun it must have a percussion lock with the AUGUSTIN system.

Many of those were later converted to percussion. His is percussion. But whether it was converted to percussion or made in percussion, I can't be certain...I need to learn more. His musket was made in 1851, so if you have any additional information to share based on that date, that would be appreciated. Any links to Austrian musket websites also appreciated.

7th May 2020, 10:48 AM	#1
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,123	Very blurry photo's and too much hand, not enough sword. You might be lucky, but it would be better to have clear pic's and taken in the manner of a police ID set. Full face, left profile, right profile etc.... However, I am getting a British vibe from what I can see.

7th May 2020, 02:16 PM	#3
ConfederateCanuck Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 11	I agree the photos are blurry, but the guard is very clear to see. Wouldn't that be the biggest clue? In the meantime, I will ask for photos. Thanks.

7th May 2020, 02:29 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	What I can say is that this sabre is probably not French, German or Austrian, but perhaps British.

7th May 2020, 02:47 PM	#5
ConfederateCanuck Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 11	Thanks for your opinion. We have two opinions that match (British). I started looking online at British swords from the 1800s and I can definitely see the similarities. The information from the Forum has already proved useful! Hopefully, we can get this identified...that would be really great. My friend has had this sword for 40 years and he never really was sure of what it was or how to even find out. He also had a musket, which he was told was from the War of 1812 (the one in North America). Being far more knowledgeable about antique muskets than I am about swords (almost zero knowledge), I was able to almost instantly identify it as an Austrian 1842 Pattern Musket, which most definitely was NOT used in 1812. These items had been passed down several generations through his family, but not the correct facts it seems. By the way, I am a regular contributor on an American Civil War Forum (though I am a Canadian), so if anyone has questions about weapons from that conflict, message me and I will do my best to give/get you answers.

7th May 2020, 03:49 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Welcome to the forum, Canuck ... and thank you for your offer concerning Civil War Weaponry info. Can you show us that musket you are talking about ?

7th May 2020, 04:19 PM	#7
ConfederateCanuck Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 11	Since the opinions are tending to suggest a British origin for the sword, is there any way to change the title of this thread to attract those with British sword expertise?

7th May 2020, 04:31 PM	#9
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	In case it is really an Austrian M 1842 infantry gun it must have a percussion lock with the AUGUSTIN system.