Thoughts on this lot from ebay

ariel · 11th May 2006, 11:55 PM

And, of course, I missed one feather...

Just tells you how concentrated I was on this movie...

Spunjer · 12th May 2006, 03:09 PM

here are close ups of the krisses

http://www.historicamericana.com/pas...p?ItemId=35303

Ian · 12th May 2006, 05:24 PM

Thanks Ron. The close ups help a lot. The top kris certainly seems to be an older form, possibly 18th C. if we believe Cato's classification. At one time this had a larger pommel, perhaps junggayan, that has been lost. This sword would take some time to restore but it is probably fairly valuable as an older example. The other appears to have a small ivory kakatua and also would need some restoration IMO. Again, quite a valuable example.

Even with the costs of restoration work, the purchaser could probably recoup most of his/her investment by restoring and selling these two swords.

Ian.

Spunjer · 13th May 2006, 03:30 AM

you're welcome, ian. the older kris appears to have a twisted core...

Mapico1 · 14th May 2006, 09:30 PM

Hi,sword left bottom is indeed a Bengé sword from N-Congo,middle one is Tsjokwé from Congo,border with Angola,top one is a Fang sword from Gabon.
From what I can see on the small images all appear to be period 1900-1920.
Regards,Danny

mross · 15th May 2006, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Thanks Ron. The close ups help a lot. The top kris certainly seems to be an older form, possibly 18th C. if we believe Cato's classification. At one time this had a larger pommel, perhaps junggayan, that has been lost. This sword would take some time to restore but it is probably fairly valuable as an older example. The other appears to have a small ivory kakatua and also would need some restoration IMO. Again, quite a valuable example.

Even with the costs of restoration work, the purchaser could probably recoup most of his/her investment by restoring and selling these two swords.

Ian.

They do help. I tried to find close ups of these before the auction but was unable to. Ron where did you find them? If I had seen these photos, I would have gone higher. Less of a pig-in-a-poke. Of course I would have kept the kalis and sold the other stuff.

Spunjer · 16th May 2006, 12:55 AM

lol, i was the first bidder on the lot. i asked the seller and he gave me the link. what prompt me from going higher was the fact that i had my sights set on something else at that time.

11th May 2006, 11:55 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	And, of course, I missed one feather... Just tells you how concentrated I was on this movie...

12th May 2006, 03:09 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here are close ups of the krisses http://www.historicamericana.com/pas...p?ItemId=35303

12th May 2006, 05:24 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Thanks Ron. The close ups help a lot. The top kris certainly seems to be an older form, possibly 18th C. if we believe Cato's classification. At one time this had a larger pommel, perhaps junggayan, that has been lost. This sword would take some time to restore but it is probably fairly valuable as an older example. The other appears to have a small ivory kakatua and also would need some restoration IMO. Again, quite a valuable example. Even with the costs of restoration work, the purchaser could probably recoup most of his/her investment by restoring and selling these two swords. Ian.

13th May 2006, 03:30 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	you're welcome, ian. the older kris appears to have a twisted core...

14th May 2006, 09:30 PM	#5
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Hi,sword left bottom is indeed a Bengé sword from N-Congo,middle one is Tsjokwé from Congo,border with Angola,top one is a Fang sword from Gabon. From what I can see on the small images all appear to be period 1900-1920. Regards,Danny

16th May 2006, 12:55 AM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	lol, i was the first bidder on the lot. i asked the seller and he gave me the link. what prompt me from going higher was the fact that i had my sights set on something else at that time.