Mortar

Gruawaesk · 4th April 2020, 07:30 PM

Hey Guys

I have to ask for your help again. I also have this mortar which i bought from a guy in Coburg in Germany. The inscription on the bottom of the piece is a mystery for me, maybe one of you has more information than me. The carriage is a reproduction but i kinda like how it looks with the barrel.

Thank you again
Daniel

adrian · 6th April 2020, 09:45 AM

That is certainly an unusual design for a mortar. Its flat base & horizontal priming dish point to it as being a piece that was designed to be fired vertically. I suspect that it is actually a large thundermug, fitted with carrying handles so it can be carried by two people, which a previous owner has interpreted as trunnions.

fernando · 6th April 2020, 10:28 AM

Very sharp eye and obviously a correct assessment, Adrian.
So ... what would the marks refer to; foundry, destination ID initials ?

adrian · 6th April 2020, 01:17 PM

So ... what would the marks refer to; foundry, destination ID initials ?

I do not know for certain. The logical answer is the foundry/maker & the year.

CutlassCollector · 9th April 2020, 08:17 PM

Hi Daniel,

Well I'm sure the experts are correct but all the same it's a damn fine mounting and who's to say that the odd 'thundermug' did not get pressed into service as a mortar when the need arose.

Regards CC

Gruawaesk · 14th April 2020, 09:36 AM

Thank you all to bring light to this topic. I am really disappointed that it this is not a real mortar. It got sold to me in a while back and i think i am still a little bit to trusting when it comes to dealers, as this piece got sold to me a a legit mortar.

Thank you Daniel

fernando · 14th April 2020, 08:44 PM

By all means, Daniel; don't feel disappointed ... at all.
This is no doubt a great and rare setup; you don't see thundermugs (that being the case) with such a large bore. There ought to be a story about it that we would love to learn.

Philip · 14th April 2020, 10:31 PM

I like it too, Daniel, Nice display setup, the repro mounting is very well made. It should make an impressive noise if you wish to fire off a salute (Independence Day, Bonfire Night, whatever) or signal the start of a yachting regatta.

BUCC_Guy · 15th April 2020, 12:23 AM

That’s a wonderful display. The mount is very nice!

4th April 2020, 07:30 PM	#1
Gruawaesk Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 8	Mortar Hey Guys I have to ask for your help again. I also have this mortar which i bought from a guy in Coburg in Germany. The inscription on the bottom of the piece is a mystery for me, maybe one of you has more information than me. The carriage is a reproduction but i kinda like how it looks with the barrel. Thank you again Daniel Attached Images

6th April 2020, 09:45 AM	#2
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 130	That is certainly an unusual design for a mortar. Its flat base & horizontal priming dish point to it as being a piece that was designed to be fired vertically. I suspect that it is actually a large thundermug, fitted with carrying handles so it can be carried by two people, which a previous owner has interpreted as trunnions.

6th April 2020, 10:28 AM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very sharp eye and obviously a correct assessment, Adrian. So ... what would the marks refer to; foundry, destination ID initials ?

6th April 2020, 01:17 PM	#4
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 130	So ... what would the marks refer to; foundry, destination ID initials ? I do not know for certain. The logical answer is the foundry/maker & the year.

9th April 2020, 08:17 PM	#5
CutlassCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Scotland Posts: 343	Hi Daniel, Well I'm sure the experts are correct but all the same it's a damn fine mounting and who's to say that the odd 'thundermug' did not get pressed into service as a mortar when the need arose. Regards CC

14th April 2020, 09:36 AM	#6
Gruawaesk Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 8	Thank you all to bring light to this topic. I am really disappointed that it this is not a real mortar. It got sold to me in a while back and i think i am still a little bit to trusting when it comes to dealers, as this piece got sold to me a a legit mortar. Thank you Daniel

14th April 2020, 08:44 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	By all means, Daniel; don't feel disappointed ... at all. This is no doubt a great and rare setup; you don't see thundermugs (that being the case) with such a large bore. There ought to be a story about it that we would love to learn.

14th April 2020, 10:31 PM	#8
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	I like it too, Daniel, Nice display setup, the repro mounting is very well made. It should make an impressive noise if you wish to fire off a salute (Independence Day, Bonfire Night, whatever) or signal the start of a yachting regatta.

15th April 2020, 12:23 AM	#9
BUCC_Guy Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 52	That’s a wonderful display. The mount is very nice!