Otoman flintlock?

Drabant1701 · 24th December 2019, 10:15 AM

There seem to be inlay in form of Dhul-Fiqar on the stock indicating Kosovo origin

rickystl · 24th December 2019, 09:15 PM

Hello. Nice looking pistol. I've always favored the all-iron mounted pistols over the all-brass or brass/iron combinations. I just find them attractive, especially with dark stained stocks such as this example. It does indeed appear that the barrel has been shortened. Probably sometime in the past possible due to muzzle damage.
These pistols are commonly known by collectors as Ottoman/Balkan Kubur (horse) pistols. And your's is very typical of the style. They are usually unmarked, with the decoration, engraving, etc. done in a generic fashion so as to appeal to a wide range of prospects. There peak of popularity was during the first half of the 19th Century. Judging by the quantity of examples still available today, these pistols must have been made by the thousands during the period. Probably made at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. But there were also many made as complete guns and decorated for the local market and exported from Europe.
Your pistol could have been in use almost anywhere in the Ottoman Empire. Again, nice piece with the all-iron mounts.

Rick

Fernando K · 24th December 2019, 09:27 PM

Hi

In my opinion, it is a reconstruction, with different pieces. The cylinder head knob, of a different material (bronze?) From the iron of the other fittings, profusely decorated with chiseled, distinct from the simple decoration of the other pieces, and of the engraved barrel

Kubur · 30th December 2019, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Drabant1701

There seem to be inlay in form of Dhul-Fiqar on the stock indicating Kosovo origin

Well done!
Balkans for sure, Kosovo I don't know.
As said, it's an Italian pistol for the Ottoman market.
You can't read the inscription as it is a pseudo inscription MIIIIIIIII...

aspalathos · 1st January 2020, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Well done!
Balkans for sure, Kosovo I don't know.
As said, it's an Italian pistol for the Ottoman market.
You can't read the inscription as it is a pseudo inscription MIIIIIIIII...

Hey Happy New Year

Tnx for your answer . I love those items but dont know much about them. I have few of them so I would like to get some info about others.Thanks to all for help

24th December 2019, 10:15 AM	#1
Drabant1701 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 181	There seem to be inlay in form of Dhul-Fiqar on the stock indicating Kosovo origin

24th December 2019, 09:15 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hello. Nice looking pistol. I've always favored the all-iron mounted pistols over the all-brass or brass/iron combinations. I just find them attractive, especially with dark stained stocks such as this example. It does indeed appear that the barrel has been shortened. Probably sometime in the past possible due to muzzle damage. These pistols are commonly known by collectors as Ottoman/Balkan Kubur (horse) pistols. And your's is very typical of the style. They are usually unmarked, with the decoration, engraving, etc. done in a generic fashion so as to appeal to a wide range of prospects. There peak of popularity was during the first half of the 19th Century. Judging by the quantity of examples still available today, these pistols must have been made by the thousands during the period. Probably made at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. But there were also many made as complete guns and decorated for the local market and exported from Europe. Your pistol could have been in use almost anywhere in the Ottoman Empire. Again, nice piece with the all-iron mounts. Rick

24th December 2019, 09:27 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hi In my opinion, it is a reconstruction, with different pieces. The cylinder head knob, of a different material (bronze?) From the iron of the other fittings, profusely decorated with chiseled, distinct from the simple decoration of the other pieces, and of the engraved barrel