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Tim Simmons · 5th May 2006, 05:50 PM

That is a very good suggestion. It is one of those puzzling objects. I too think it has a specific function and has been in use. It may remain a mystery as the number of people alive in the UK with the relevant experience of colonial soldiers in East African most be coming to an end.

fernando · 5th May 2006, 08:05 PM

Let's put them up, maybe it helps the imagination.
It could be, besides a handle stick, some sort of utensile, in fact. It might even have had two uses, one after the other, like the dip stick hipothesis, at a later stage in its life.
Surely not a needle, i would say. The idea is rational, but it doesn't match ... the orifice should be closer to the tip, and more worked up, besides other aspects.
The guy is a British colonial Sergeant and, for the matter, could still represent an Englishman, not an African serving in the British Army. This is a key point in determining this obect's reason of existance.
I bet Tim will pay a portion of " he kows what" to the member who will first tell us its utility.
fernando

Tim Simmons · 5th May 2006, 09:20 PM

If somebody knows the answer, not only do they get a portion of fish 'n' chips, Haddock not Cod being the best fish, I will also treat them to a pint of strong bitter ale like Tadcasters Samuel Smiths or Ringwoods Old Thumper. Ehmmmm Beer

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Mark · 5th May 2006, 10:25 PM

Now I see three tide marks on the stick - as if it were stuck repeatedly into something up to these three specific depths. Hm. Canvas needle was indeed a long-shot. For what purpose was it used that it would have acquired three distinct "depth" marks - one a couple centimeters from the tip, one half-way along, and one just above the hole?

Emanuel · 5th May 2006, 10:37 PM

Hello,
If the stick was stuck into holes of varying diameters as they look in the picture of the game posted by Lew, the stick would eventually acquire marks at different parts along its length no? Bigger holes would mark it towards the top, smaller holes towards the bottom.

Manolo

fernando · 6th May 2006, 12:30 PM

Cod would do, Tim ... and a Pint of bitter.

The size of the sticks in Lew's egyptian game is some five-six-seven times smaller than Tim's device. This would implicate in a huge game apparatus.
fernando

fernando · 15th May 2006, 08:14 PM

Hi Tim
Just to keep it going.
This is a Tanzanian hair pin ( XX century ).
Its lenght is 300 m/m, which might make the difference to the purpose of
your piece. But look at the form... and ins't that a hole in the stick ?
fernando

5th May 2006, 08:05 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Let's put them up, maybe it helps the imagination. It could be, besides a handle stick, some sort of utensile, in fact. It might even have had two uses, one after the other, like the dip stick hipothesis, at a later stage in its life. Surely not a needle, i would say. The idea is rational, but it doesn't match ... the orifice should be closer to the tip, and more worked up, besides other aspects. The guy is a British colonial Sergeant and, for the matter, could still represent an Englishman, not an African serving in the British Army. This is a key point in determining this obect's reason of existance. I bet Tim will pay a portion of " he kows what" to the member who will first tell us its utility. fernando Attached Images

15th May 2006, 08:14 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Tim Just to keep it going. This is a Tanzanian hair pin ( XX century ). Its lenght is 300 m/m, which might make the difference to the purpose of your piece. But look at the form... and ins't that a hole in the stick ? fernando Attached Images

5th May 2006, 05:50 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	That is a very good suggestion. It is one of those puzzling objects. I too think it has a specific function and has been in use. It may remain a mystery as the number of people alive in the UK with the relevant experience of colonial soldiers in East African most be coming to an end.

5th May 2006, 09:20 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	If somebody knows the answer, not only do they get a portion of fish 'n' chips, Haddock not Cod being the best fish, I will also treat them to a pint of strong bitter ale like Tadcasters Samuel Smiths or Ringwoods Old Thumper. Ehmmmm Beer .

5th May 2006, 10:25 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Now I see three tide marks on the stick - as if it were stuck repeatedly into something up to these three specific depths. Hm. Canvas needle was indeed a long-shot. For what purpose was it used that it would have acquired three distinct "depth" marks - one a couple centimeters from the tip, one half-way along, and one just above the hole?

5th May 2006, 10:37 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, If the stick was stuck into holes of varying diameters as they look in the picture of the game posted by Lew, the stick would eventually acquire marks at different parts along its length no? Bigger holes would mark it towards the top, smaller holes towards the bottom. Manolo

6th May 2006, 12:30 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Cod would do, Tim ... and a Pint of bitter. The size of the sticks in Lew's egyptian game is some five-six-seven times smaller than Tim's device. This would implicate in a huge game apparatus. fernando