Mace from Bukhara.

[mahratt]

I suspect that you mean Iraq’s “swamp arabs" or Kurds. Although, of course, I could be wrong and you thought about another country.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by mahratt

I suspect that you mean Iraq’s “swamp arabs" or Kurds. Although, of course, I could be wrong and you thought about another country.

You are very very very good Mahratt
Yes indeed I'm thinking about Iraq.

[mahratt]

Originally Posted by Kubur

You are very very very good Mahratt
Yes indeed I'm thinking about Iraq.

Thanks, Kubur.
It seems to me that there are a number of serious "But":
1) I can’t recall photos men from Iraq with such maces.
2) I can’t remember similar maces in museums that would be attributed to Iraq
3) if we assume that these maces come from Iraq, it is strange that Olufsen brought several of these maces from Bukhara

If I'm wrong, please correct me.

On the other hand, I have not seen a single well-known publication about such maces, except for all of us known article by Torben Flindt.
This is rather strange, since logically such maces were supposed to get into Russia as trophies, and not just to Denmark ... Although, maybe they are in some small provincial museums and are waiting for the researcher.

[Ren Ren]

It does not surprise me that Bukhara maces are similar to objects from other countries. The Bukhara emirate was a multinational state where two great Asian traditions met - Turkic and Persian.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Ren Ren

It does not surprise me that Bukhara maces are similar to objects from other countries. The Bukhara emirate was a multinational state where two great Asian traditions met - Turkic and Persian.

Yes I'm just trying to think where this mace originate from and when

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by mahratt

Thanks, Kubur.
It seems to me that there are a number of serious "But":
1) I can’t recall photos men from Iraq with such maces.

I do, will post later

Originally Posted by mahratt

2) I can’t remember similar maces in museums that would be attributed to Iraq

You are right

Originally Posted by mahratt

assume that these maces come from Iraq, it is strange that Olufsen brought several of these maces from Bukhara

You are right they have to be from Bukhara, especially because they are associated to bukharan shashka

Originally Posted by mahratt

On the other hand, I have not seen a single well-known publication about such maces, except for all of us known article by Torben Flindt.
This is rather strange, since logically such maces were supposed to get into Russia as trophies, and not just to Denmark ...

That's my problem, only one article but collectors will follow blindly

[mahratt]

Originally Posted by Kubur

I do, will post later

Do you mean the photo album in which the peoples of the Ottoman Empire were photographed in national costumes? In the photo there are usually three people nearby. Or some other photos?

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by mahratt

Do you mean the photo album in which the peoples of the Ottoman Empire were photographed in national costumes? In the photo there are usually three people nearby. Or some other photos?

You are absolutely terrific! Yes of course this one from Iraq and another one that I have to find. Some Sudanese alabaster maces are very similar and also some Indian rock crystal ones...

[mahratt]

Originally Posted by Kubur

You are absolutely terrific! Yes of course this one from Iraq and another one that I have to find. Some Sudanese alabaster maces are very similar and also some Indian rock crystal ones...

Thanks Kubur

You're right, Iraqi, Indian and Sudanese maces are very similar. And I also thought about it.
Therefore, I guessed what kind of photo you thought about.
But ... All these maces are made in a completely different style. And the so-called "Bukhara maces", despite minor differences, are well recognizable and similar to each other. That is, they have one common style.
As I wrote earlier, I do not understand why there are no publications devoted to these maces, except for one, which is well known to us. But now I'm trying to figure it out. I am trying to find out if there are such maces in museums in Uzbekistan.