JOHANNES WUNDES SWORD

bvieira · 29th September 2019, 12:28 PM

Hello,

First of all i would like to say that if you really interested in knowing more about that sword that is impossible to do it by internet with photos, you should contact a professional and show it in person, you must see the opinions in the internet as opinions only and not 100% sure.

I agree with most of the things said above, the grip is modern, the pommel is modern, the guard is not original and was adapted do the blade, it can be a older guard or a modern as the pommel and the grip are both fakes.

The blade seems real because of the mark, just that, but even a mark can be easy forged if wanted, none of the above opinions take in consideration the size, the weight, the quality of the metal (something can only be seen by having the sword in hands).

Somebody above said that is a item to "keep" i would say it's a item to stay away!

nickolas33 · 5th October 2019, 11:14 PM

Hello bvieira
Your opinion is a bit hard.This sword belonged to a famous 96 years old German collector which after his death I bought it from a serious auction house in Germany.It belonged to a huge sword collection of the past owner.If you have the experience even from the photos it is not difficult to recognise that the blade is an original piece by Johannes Wundes the Elder 1560-1610.As the experts in the auction house said the guard is a later piece in 19th century and pommel and grip a bit later.As you know older times sword makers used often old blades to refurbishe swords as Jim McDougall said.These stuffs maybe are newest and not from 17th cen. but not fakes at all as you present them.My opinion is this because I have the sword in my hands.As old collector I have the experience to recognise old or new metals.
regards...Nick

ulfberth · 8th October 2019, 06:49 AM

Hello Nickolas,
the blade is 100 % original and so is the stamp and indeed it is not hard to see at all in this case.
The guard is 19th C the wire and pommel later, in fact it is exactly as the auction house described it.
Kind regards
Ulfberth

29th September 2019, 12:28 PM	#1
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello, First of all i would like to say that if you really interested in knowing more about that sword that is impossible to do it by internet with photos, you should contact a professional and show it in person, you must see the opinions in the internet as opinions only and not 100% sure. I agree with most of the things said above, the grip is modern, the pommel is modern, the guard is not original and was adapted do the blade, it can be a older guard or a modern as the pommel and the grip are both fakes. The blade seems real because of the mark, just that, but even a mark can be easy forged if wanted, none of the above opinions take in consideration the size, the weight, the quality of the metal (something can only be seen by having the sword in hands). Somebody above said that is a item to "keep" i would say it's a item to stay away! Last edited by bvieira; 29th September 2019 at 04:03 PM.

5th October 2019, 11:14 PM	#2
nickolas33 Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5	JOHANNES WUNDES SWORD Hello bvieira Your opinion is a bit hard.This sword belonged to a famous 96 years old German collector which after his death I bought it from a serious auction house in Germany.It belonged to a huge sword collection of the past owner.If you have the experience even from the photos it is not difficult to recognise that the blade is an original piece by Johannes Wundes the Elder 1560-1610.As the experts in the auction house said the guard is a later piece in 19th century and pommel and grip a bit later.As you know older times sword makers used often old blades to refurbishe swords as Jim McDougall said.These stuffs maybe are newest and not from 17th cen. but not fakes at all as you present them.My opinion is this because I have the sword in my hands.As old collector I have the experience to recognise old or new metals. regards...Nick

8th October 2019, 06:49 AM	#3
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 412	Hello Nickolas, the blade is 100 % original and so is the stamp and indeed it is not hard to see at all in this case. The guard is 19th C the wire and pommel later, in fact it is exactly as the auction house described it. Kind regards Ulfberth