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Old 29th July 2019, 12:47 PM   #1
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Try to find a forum where they discuss coat of arms. They should be able to help you further - good luck.
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Old 29th July 2019, 01:36 PM   #2
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Maydell is the name of a Baltic German belonging to Uradel gender, which was several centuries in Estonia and there was one of the notorious families. In documents and texts of the first centuries, the surname is sometimes given in the spelling Maydel or Maidel.
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The family probably came to Estonia from northern Germany, as did some other knight families, when the landscapes of the north of the country, Harrien and Wierland, belonged to the domain of the Danish king (1219-1227 and 1238-1346). It is probably named after its first demonstrable fief in Estonia, the Dutch village of Maidla. The village is already mentioned in 1241 under the name Maydalae, but was then owned by the Danish governor to Reval Dominus Saxo.

The spread of a family from northern Germany in the course of the Christianization of the Baltic Sea region under several names is not an isolated case.

The oldest documentary mention of the family comes from the year 1363, when Hennekinus Maydel together with the councilman Gerhardus Witte in Reval, now Tallinn, acquired a house.


The descendants of the Danish court junker Gertken Meidel founded a Scandinavian line in the 17th century, which still flourishes in Sweden today as Slekten Meidell. [4]
The family of Maydell belonged to the Estonian knighthood, with some branches of the family, however, to Livonia or Kurland knighthood. On June 26, 1693 awarded the Swedish King Charles XI. Georg Johan Maydell, who is in Swedish service, for his military merits, the baron title. This was associated with his admission to the Swedish knighthood. However, the family branch founded by the Swedish baron Georg Johann Maydell already died out in 1814.


German university records of the 17th and 18th centuries lead members of the family as barons, as Jacob Friedrich 1671 in Leipzig and Georg Gustav 1752 in Halle.

As with other well-known families of the Baltic Uradels made in the Baltic provinces of Estonia, Livonia and Courland in the Russian period official recognition of the baronial state respectively the leadership of the title, last for the total sex with Ukas of the Imperial Russian Senate of December 7, 1854.

As a result of the Hitler-Stalin Pact, those residing in the Baltics of Maydell like most German Baltic had to leave their homeland in 1939 and were relocated to the area occupied by German troops to Posen ("Warthegau"). Today, members of the Maydell family live mainly in Germany, some branches of the family but also in other countries such as Austria, South Africa and Canada.

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Old 29th July 2019, 01:37 PM   #3
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Crown and coronet criteria varies among different countries. In one like mine, the Baron doesn't 'qualify' for those peak pearls. It only has them (always seven) in Denmark, Norway, Nederlands, Russian Empire and Holly Roman-Germanic Empire (new version).
Just as an aside, this frontal counting of pears, which they call apparent, comprehends the pearls we see front wise, meaning that the actual total of pearls is one applied in the whole round coronet ... not crown, as those are for Kings and Princes.
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Thank you for bringing this thread back to the fore! Brilliant discourse with the 'top guns' of the forum bringing in incredible references and resourced data on this great example of a hand and a half sword.
The information shared by these guys is amazing, and a learning experience to reread this material and sort of 'recharge the batteries' !
Well done.
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Old 12th September 2024, 06:26 AM   #6
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I believe the coat of arms is more on a style of the middle to late XVIIIth century. It does not make much sense in a battle sword in use, and possibly was added much later, when the sword got other functions, pageants and such.
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Old 30th October 2024, 01:37 PM   #7
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the three marks on the blade are ofthen associated with swordsmiths from Belluno, in the Veneto region of Italy.
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