Italian Stiletto for comment

[kronckew]

19cm=7.5in
30cm=11.8in.

Kinda long for a lady with a long dress. depending on where she kept it. Long Boots? Maybe in the belt behind the back, Gambler?

One of Ruby's House Gambler's then

Haven't held it yet, maybe it'll tell me something when it gets here if I feed it a mint julep as a libation. I will of course drink any of it the dirk leaves behind.

The world is more curious than we think. So many questions, so few answers.

Found this one Googling: Very close in diminsions to mine: Listed as a 'gamblers dirk around 1850-60'. Blade looks a bit wider than my more stilettoey one. I like mine better I think, this one is a bit common looking. only sold for 6 times what I paid for mine, and scabbardless. It was apparently stamped 'Sheffield'.

[kronckew]

Never bring a gun to a knife fight - if you are closer than 5 or 6 yards. Nowadays we'd likely have saved the guy with the stomach wound.

Also found g̶u̶r̶g̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ googling.

[Jim McDougall]

LOL! great humor as always Wayne
Absolutely love New Orleans, and have been going there for many years. There is so much fascinating history, and you cannot beat the music and food. This city has been a key location through American history, and intriguing how many nations flags have flown there over the years.

These stilettos were deadly as noted with the manner of stabbing, repeated stabs where the weapon is not lodged but causes massive hemorrhaging wounds, much in the way a 'shiv' is used in the grim business in attack in prisons.

With the Bowies, far too large for this sort of carriage of course, many were indeed made in Sheffield, in fact in larger number than made here in many respects. It is not commonly realized just how many English weapons were used in American frontiers, not just the knives but often the pistols.

This example you are getting is of course a bit long for discreet wear by one of these 'ladies of the night', but probably able to be concealed by men who frequented shady places in those times wearing frock coats. Knives were often carried as in cities open carry wearing of firearms was prohibited. Often carrying small pocket pistols was done, but many of these, especially the cheap available kinds, were called 'suicide pistols' presumably for misfire rate or other issues.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

LOL! great humor as always Wayne
...Often carrying small pocket pistols was done, but many of these, especially the cheap available kinds, were called 'suicide pistols' presumably for misfire rate or other issues.

Thanks. I try. Breaks the boredom & adds colour.

I once owned a .25 pocket pistol i recall buying in Miami. Someone told me once not to actually shoot anyone with them with that, it might make them mad and they'll beat the tar outta you. It was very accurate for it's size, I'm sure I could have hit a Battlehip at 10 yards at least 5 times out of 10. I'm guessing similar ballistics and terminal lethality for you suicide pistols, allowing time for the target to get in a few jabs, essentially suicide by it's effectiveness. Might scare the horses tho. never did sink that battleship either.

p.s. - another NOLA anecdote, my Birthday, took some of the other officers to the New Orleans Playboy club. We were in summer dress white ossifer's uniforms (it was of course a bit warm out), which are tie-less. Doorman insisted he could NOT let us in without a tie. We were going to leave when his manager arrived with a solution. He 'loaned' us a tie, we each put it around our necks, walked in , took it off and tossed it back to the next. problem solved, the rule didn't say you have to keep wearing one once you were in.

The food was, as you note, unbelievably good. Best in the world. Loved my tour there, in spite of the eagle sized Mosquitos that could carry off a small child in the night...

[M ELEY]

You guys are cracking me up! Never been to New Orleans, but absolutely intend to some day. Jim, you brought up an excellent point with migrants bringing these types of dirks over from their home countries. This is the 'melting pot', after all. I have seen several examples of gambler dirks and boot knives with thin, stiletto blades. One, I believe, was identified as belonging to a Confederate soldier.

All this makes me want to watch "Silverado" again. Remember? Jeff Goldbrum playing the villain with the boot dagger?

[Jim McDougall]

LOL!
Yup, Nu Olaans, quite a place. As much as I love music, it was awesome....not just in the 'joints' but musicians often assemble in the street, start jammin' and more join in. Before long there are whole groups of players all incredibly in complete harmony just makin it up as they go.

Remember we were there in the rig, right by the levee, the fishing boats would dock, and you got buckets full of shrimp etc. and just lit up the BBQ.

With knives, Barateria, where Jean Lafitte was 'king' (his place still there) in late 18th into 19th, was named for knife fighting. Jim and Rezin Bowie learned knife fighting there, and likely with knives of this size but based on the Meditteranean knives used by sailors from Spain, Italy and France.

At night, Bourbon Street becomes lively and jubilant, rather than bustling as during the day, and while there seems a threatening darkness, it is mostly indiscernible in all the excitement. It really does not seem to have changed much from those days in the past centuries.
A lotta fun, but ya gotta always 'check your six'

Oh, and mosquitos?? here in Texas they have navigation lights on the wings!!

[kronckew]

I recall the Skeeters in Baytown, and along the coast & swamps down to Galveston. puny little fellers, could hardly pick up anything larger than a small child. Those back home in Alabama could take off with a calf under each arm.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by M ELEY

You guys are cracking me up! Never been to New Orleans, but absolutely intend to some day...

Yes you should, Cap'n; and don't listen to what those frightening guys are telling you about the mosquitoes. They must have been in N.O. in their previous incarnation; there are no more mosquitoes over there .
And, as you are a boatsman, i recommend you a little cruise in the steam paddle boat along the Mississippi and another in a nearby bayou. And don't forget to carry a handful a marshmallows to attract the 'gators. Some are so big they could play the role of the croc that devoured Captain Hook's hand .
And, as you leave or as you enter, an overnight (or two) in one of those mystic plantations .

[kronckew]

Well, It has arrived, cute little tyke, more stiletto than dagger, scabbard a bit tight & dry, using some leather rejuvenator on it. Photo below in my hand for scale. no markings on the blade. Sharp, as 'Doug' says 'this knife will cut'.

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[M ELEY]

Originally Posted by fernando

Yes you should, Cap'n; and don't listen to what those frightening guys are telling you about the mosquitoes. They must have been in N.O. in their previous incarnation; there are no more mosquitoes over there .
And, as you are a boatsman, i recommend you a little cruise in the steam paddle boat along the Mississippi and another in a nearby bayou. And don't forget to carry a handful a marshmallows to attract the 'gators. Some are so big they could play the role of the croc that devoured Captain Hook's hand .
And, as you leave or as you enter, an overnight (or two) in one of those mystic plantations .

"Nando, you make me want to pack my bags and go right now! Just had a friend that went and did a cemetary tour of the city. She was completely blown away! I hear that the bar where Jean Lafette used to hang out is stil there. That river boat also sounds extremely amazing! Fernando, did you go while you were visiting here?

Speaking of river boats, didn't Jim Bowie have a knife fight atop one in a famous duel on the Mississippi? Have to do a little research on that one.

Wayne, that is truly a nice piece! Good find!

[Rick]

Originally Posted by fernando

Yes you should, Cap'n; and don't listen to what those frightening guys are telling you about the mosquitoes. They must have been in N.O. in their previous incarnation; there are no more mosquitoes over there .
And, as you are a boatsman, i recommend you a little cruise in the steam paddle boat along the Mississippi and another in a nearby bayou. And don't forget to carry a handful a marshmallows to attract the 'gators. Some are so big they could play the role of the croc that devoured Captain Hook's hand .
And, as you leave or as you enter, an overnight (or two) in one of those mystic plantations .

In Florida you don't view the Gators; they view you and you don't have to leave your house.