Prussian Dragoon sword 1734 with iron hilt

Jim McDougall · 7th April 2019, 03:54 AM

Further info I found:
Apparently the brass hilts were equally for other ranks not officers as I presumed, at least in the case of the M1732.
The Potzdam arsenal was apparently founded in 1722 as a rifle manufactory.
It is actually in Brandenburg /Berlin and swords from there later in the century were marked Berlin.

I also found that Dragoon regt. Nr.3; Grenadiers zu Pferd used dragoon swords with iron hilts. It would seem this was a limited case so this sword could very likely be from that unit.

There is a book in German I found:
" Me Fecit Potzdam: Old Prussian Edged Weapons of the 18th C"
by Bernd A, Windscheimer

corrado26 · 7th April 2019, 08:13 AM

For better understanding:
Parallel to the in 1734 introduced swords for dragoons with a brass hilt and an eagle head there has been adopted a sword with an iron hilt. These iron hilted swords were used by the dragoon-regiment n°3 (1713-1741 mounted grenadiers) and n°4. Until today only 12 of these iron hilted swords are known. The book of my friend Bernd Windsheimer "ME FECIT POTZDAM" is a very good and impressive source in order to learn interesting details concerning Prussian swords. There some more iron hilted swords M 1734 are shown and well described.
corrado26

Jim McDougall · 7th April 2019, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

For better understanding:
Parallel to the in 1734 introduced swords for dragoons with a brass hilt and an eagle head there has been adopted a sword with an iron hilt. These iron hilted swords were used by the dragoon-regiment n°3 (1713-1741 mounted grenadiers) and n°4. Until today only 12 of these iron hilted swords are known. The book of my friend Bernd Windsheimer "ME FECIT POTZDAM" is a very good and impressive source in order to learn interesting details concerning Prussian swords. There some more iron hilted swords M 1734 are shown and well described.
corrado26

Udo thank you for clarifying my efforts to add information to this very interesting sword. I always enjoy learning from these swords, and wanted to share what I had found for the benefit of our many readers. It truly adds so much more dimension to the enjoyment of seeing these weapons when knowing these kinds of details, and especially that your friends book is out there.
Frankly the information found online and even in the other known sources in English are pretty dismal, and offer very little insight into the history of Potzdam as far as swords. There is far more on the firearms production of course.
Thank you again
Jim

7th April 2019, 03:54 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,459	Further info I found: Apparently the brass hilts were equally for other ranks not officers as I presumed, at least in the case of the M1732. The Potzdam arsenal was apparently founded in 1722 as a rifle manufactory. It is actually in Brandenburg /Berlin and swords from there later in the century were marked Berlin. I also found that Dragoon regt. Nr.3; Grenadiers zu Pferd used dragoon swords with iron hilts. It would seem this was a limited case so this sword could very likely be from that unit. There is a book in German I found: " Me Fecit Potzdam: Old Prussian Edged Weapons of the 18th C" by Bernd A, Windscheimer

7th April 2019, 08:13 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	For better understanding: Parallel to the in 1734 introduced swords for dragoons with a brass hilt and an eagle head there has been adopted a sword with an iron hilt. These iron hilted swords were used by the dragoon-regiment n°3 (1713-1741 mounted grenadiers) and n°4. Until today only 12 of these iron hilted swords are known. The book of my friend Bernd Windsheimer "ME FECIT POTZDAM" is a very good and impressive source in order to learn interesting details concerning Prussian swords. There some more iron hilted swords M 1734 are shown and well described. corrado26