Ethiopian Gurade sword

[roanoa]

Well, here is the drawing that I posted a few years back. It's a BAD drawing, but I think it offers a good explanation.....

[francantolin]

Hello,

Thank you for the advices about horn parasites !!!
I'll take care !

I knew that bovidae, capridae have a bone under the horn ( and not the rhino),
but I found strange that the sword maker choose a piece with such a big hole consciously , especially a common buffalo horn piece !!

Is it common ??
Isn't the hilt and the sword less solid like that ?
I think it was a real 19th century fighting sword ? ( what do you think ??)
it's sabotage for me ''create'' it like that !?

[roanoa]

Of course your sword is a REAL fighting sword. The blade is probably from a "recycled" hussar (light cavalry) blade. The hole in the grip does not weaken it in any way. Virtually every single gurade/shotel/seif with buffalo horn hilt that I have seen/owned/have show the "hole". This question has been raised over the years a few times. Check old discussions. By the way, there is a LOT of info in old threads and it is worth the while to check that out. I believe it is a must for new members (or old members with new interests) to go back a few years and read all has been written on the subject.

[francantolin]

Thank's !!!

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by roanoa

Of course your sword is a REAL fighting sword. The blade is probably from a "recycled" hussar (light cavalry) blade. The hole in the grip does not weaken it in any way. Virtually every single gurade/shotel/seif with buffalo horn hilt that I have seen/owned/have show the "hole". This question has been raised over the years a few times. Check old discussions. By the way, there is a LOT of info in old threads and it is worth the while to check that out. I believe it is a must for new members (or old members with new interests) to go back a few years and read all has been written on the subject.

Ron, I notice that you note the terms for Ethiopian swords in tandem gurade/shotel/saif and I recall not too long ago you pretty much clarified the proper terminology. Could you reiterate?

I had thought these with the horn grip were termed shotel, just as with the sickle bladed types, and that the gurade was a military/European style sword.


This was incorrect and I think you pointed out that 'gurade' was more a universally used term in Abysinnia/Ethiopia for sword. I cannot recall where the shotel term came in.


Interesting here as well, that buffalo horn was used in these hilts, and not always rhino, as again I had long thought. Always a learning experience here!! and Ron, you have always given us great insight in these things.

[roanoa]

OK.
SEIF (SAIF) = DOUBLE EDGED STRAIGHT BLADE
GURADE (GORADE) = CURVED BLADE (USUALLY SINGLE EDGE)
SHOTEL = DOUBLE EDGED SICKLE SHAPED

Nothing to do with shape of hilt or material. European "D" hilts are found fitted to gurade, though a lot of gurade are fitted with horn or wood grips.

Cheers, RON

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by roanoa

OK.
SEIF (SAIF) = DOUBLE EDGED STRAIGHT BLADE
GURADE (GORADE) = CURVED BLADE (USUALLY SINGLE EDGE)
SHOTEL = DOUBLE EDGED SICKLE SHAPED

Nothing to do with shape of hilt or material. European "D" hilts are found fitted to gurade, though a lot of gurade are fitted with horn or wood grips.

Cheers, RON

Perfect!!! Thanks Ron!