very long barrel percussion pistol

MacCathain · 5th December 2018, 12:02 AM

Ken, I'd say a cane gun as well, principally due to the barrel length and the characteristic grip, which serves either purpose. A nice find!

M

Rick · 5th December 2018, 02:55 AM

Well, if it's a cane gun it's about as subtle as a crutch.

fernando · 5th December 2018, 01:31 PM

Obviously not a cane sword. The suggestion was not a weapon to be concealed inside a cane but, naked as it is, concealed under the overcoat. You walk down to the (city) park, pull it off and shoot a piece of game !

Kmaddock · 5th December 2018, 05:36 PM

Hi All
Thanks for your interest
here is a few i came across on the web
looks sort of similar
basically looks like a long barrel pistol and you have some sort of screw off plug at the top of the barrel for when using as a walking stick (a not very discrete item at all)
cant imagine it would be v accurate more of a curiosity I suppose but that is why i purchased it so i cant be too critical!!
regards

ken

fernando · 5th December 2018, 06:16 PM

Those two are not the same thing ... right ?
The lower one would be a cane gun; but the upper one is like yours and i don't think is the same kind of implement.
I will stand corrected though

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Fernando K · 5th December 2018, 07:06 PM

Hello

Only for a comment. It would be necessary to see if the barrel is original, or if it has been added later, to create a "curious" weapon (and be able to sell it like this)

Affectionately

Kmaddock · 5th December 2018, 07:24 PM

Hi Fernando
No not the same thing in second image, first though looks to be a reasonable match though.
The second picture of the two shows the plug at the bottom of the barrel so that the barrel does not presumably get plugged with mud when you are using the gun as a a cane.
Sort of same family
I am wondering will there be threads at the bottom of the barrel on mine to screw in a plug?
we will see on Christmas morning? I enjoy the guessing at the moment though
Thanks again for observations
Ken

DaleH · 6th December 2018, 12:40 AM

Wonder if there is a hole at the base of the stock. See attached. If not a cane gun, it could be an early (percussion) ‘bicycle’ pistol.

http://www.horstheld.com/0-Day.html

DaleH · 6th December 2018, 12:48 AM

Check to see if there is a hole at the back of the grip. If not a cane gun, it could be an early percussion ‘bicycle’ pistol.

See more here: http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/guns/ and here, for one w/ removable buttstock: http://www.horstheld.com/0-Day.html

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kahnjar1 · 6th December 2018, 07:21 AM

Hi Ken,
When you receive it, check to see if there is a fixing point for a shoulder stock. I suspect that if there is one, it will be what is loosely called a Poachers Gun. Not likely to be a cane or walking stick gun as they are usually "full length" with a barrel bung of some sort.
Interesting piece by the way.............

Stu

5th December 2018, 05:36 PM	#4
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi All Thanks for your interest here is a few i came across on the web looks sort of similar basically looks like a long barrel pistol and you have some sort of screw off plug at the top of the barrel for when using as a walking stick (a not very discrete item at all) cant imagine it would be v accurate more of a curiosity I suppose but that is why i purchased it so i cant be too critical!! regards ken Attached Images

6th December 2018, 12:48 AM	#9
DaleH Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: near Boston - USA Posts: 12	Check to see if there is a hole at the back of the grip. If not a cane gun, it could be an early percussion ‘bicycle’ pistol. See more here: http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/guns/ and here, for one w/ removable buttstock: http://www.horstheld.com/0-Day.html . Last edited by fernando; 6th December 2018 at 08:38 AM. Reason: No links to active sales sites allowed

5th December 2018, 12:02 AM	#1
MacCathain Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 67	Ken, I'd say a cane gun as well, principally due to the barrel length and the characteristic grip, which serves either purpose. A nice find! M

5th December 2018, 02:55 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Well, if it's a cane gun it's about as subtle as a crutch.

5th December 2018, 01:31 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Obviously not a cane sword. The suggestion was not a weapon to be concealed inside a cane but, naked as it is, concealed under the overcoat. You walk down to the (city) park, pull it off and shoot a piece of game !

5th December 2018, 06:16 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Those two are not the same thing ... right ? The lower one would be a cane gun; but the upper one is like yours and i don't think is the same kind of implement. I will stand corrected though .

5th December 2018, 07:06 PM	#6
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello Only for a comment. It would be necessary to see if the barrel is original, or if it has been added later, to create a "curious" weapon (and be able to sell it like this) Affectionately

5th December 2018, 07:24 PM	#7
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi Fernando No not the same thing in second image, first though looks to be a reasonable match though. The second picture of the two shows the plug at the bottom of the barrel so that the barrel does not presumably get plugged with mud when you are using the gun as a a cane. Sort of same family I am wondering will there be threads at the bottom of the barrel on mine to screw in a plug? we will see on Christmas morning? I enjoy the guessing at the moment though Thanks again for observations Ken

6th December 2018, 12:40 AM	#8
DaleH Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: near Boston - USA Posts: 12	Wonder if there is a hole at the base of the stock. See attached. If not a cane gun, it could be an early (percussion) ‘bicycle’ pistol. http://www.horstheld.com/0-Day.html

6th December 2018, 07:21 AM	#10
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Hi Ken, When you receive it, check to see if there is a fixing point for a shoulder stock. I suspect that if there is one, it will be what is loosely called a Poachers Gun. Not likely to be a cane or walking stick gun as they are usually "full length" with a barrel bung of some sort. Interesting piece by the way............. Stu