Comment?

Jean · 30th November 2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustav

As the name Jayasukadgo was mentioned (of course, having nothing to do with the initial Keris), attached a picture of a part of Keris which has been attributed to Jayasukadgo.

The pamor pattern of this kris looks very similar to te one belonging to Bill?

Regards

Gustav · 30th November 2018, 02:52 PM

Yes Jean, emerging of certain patterns in certain places is a regularity.

Otherwise there are worlds between these two blades.

David · 30th November 2018, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

The pamor pattern of this kris looks very similar to te one belonging to Bill?

Regards

Jean, i believe you are confused because Gustav actually posted TWO keris as a comparative. The first one IS Bill's keris. The second one is a tighter shot on the one he attributes to Jayasukadgo.

A. G. Maisey · 30th November 2018, 08:35 PM

I completely agree with you Gustav, the difference between Bill's keris and a Jayasukadgo is comparable to the difference between a Volkswagon Passat and a Mercedes-Benz Maybach Exelero --- and so is the market price.

Jean · 30th November 2018, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Jean, i believe you are confused because Gustav actually posted TWO keris as a comparative. The first one IS Bill's keris. The second one is a tighter shot on the one he attributes to Jayasukadgo.

Thank you David, you are correct and sorry for the confusion. It would be nice if Gustav could show us a full pic of the Maybach Exelero

Regards

A. G. Maisey · 30th November 2018, 09:17 PM

Jean, possibly Gustav is under some restriction on publication. I have photos, in fact many photos, of keris that when I obtained those photos I was placed under a vow that I would never permit anybody else to look at them, and I, myself, could only look at them on a moonless night with the lights out.

Not everybody appreciates having the world look at the things for which they have responsibility.

Bill M · 1st December 2018, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jean, possibly Gustav is under some restriction on publication. I have photos, in fact many photos, of keris that when I obtained those photos I was placed under a vow that I would never permit anybody else to look at them, and I, myself, could only look at them on a moonless night with the lights out.

Not everybody appreciates having the world look at the things for which they have responsibility.

I agree and follow the same personal restrictions.

Jean · 1st December 2018, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill M

I agree and follow the same personal restrictions.

I agree provided that:
. The kris is not under my ownership and I have no formal authorization from the owner to show it.
. Or the kris is really too valuable (or for another valid reason) to be openly displayed.
But I believe that if you start showing part of it, it is not fair not to show it fully as it is frustrating for the other members.
Regards

David · 2nd December 2018, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean

But I believe that if you start showing part of it, it is not fair not to show it fully as it is frustrating for the other members.

Jean, i'm sure such small moments of frustration will quickly pass for the unfulfilled. But i would never mandate that any member need show any more or less of any keris they have under their custody than they are willing to show, no matter what their reasoning. I would like to thank Gustav for showing us as much of the blade as he felt he could. It is telling of the craft of such a blade that it can make itself understood viewing only this much of the blade.

30th November 2018, 02:52 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Yes Jean, emerging of certain patterns in certain places is a regularity. Otherwise there are worlds between these two blades.

30th November 2018, 08:35 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,994	I completely agree with you Gustav, the difference between Bill's keris and a Jayasukadgo is comparable to the difference between a Volkswagon Passat and a Mercedes-Benz Maybach Exelero --- and so is the market price.

30th November 2018, 09:17 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,994	Jean, possibly Gustav is under some restriction on publication. I have photos, in fact many photos, of keris that when I obtained those photos I was placed under a vow that I would never permit anybody else to look at them, and I, myself, could only look at them on a moonless night with the lights out. Not everybody appreciates having the world look at the things for which they have responsibility.