opinions on my kerises

nechesh · 22nd January 2005, 04:56 AM

No problem Casey, i understand your enthusiasm. You've been stradled with a heavy burden here, If only i could be so cursed.

Again you have present one new keris and one old. The first one is a modern 3 luk keris singo (lion) in Yogyakarta gayaman (everyday) dress. The second is older (19thC ?) in Surakarta Ladrang (formal) dress. I'd like to see this one restained because the pamor looks like it may be interesting. Almost looks like writing (Islamic) on the blade, which is certainly not beyond possibilities.

casey · 22nd January 2005, 05:40 AM

Good spotting Nechesh I didnt know if the writing would be noticeable from the pics.I am not game enough to try and clean the blades yet need to learn more about them and be cleer on the correct techniques.Is writing on the blade unusual? thanks Case

nechesh · 22nd January 2005, 05:50 AM

Well, i've seen a lot of it on blades made for tourist trade, but this blade does not appear to be one of those to me, in which case i will say that i do find it somewhat uncommon. Does the writing appear to be made of pamor material or perhaps silver?

casey · 22nd January 2005, 06:06 AM

Hard to say Nechesh it does seem a little different to normal pamor but I wouldn,t call it either way it needs to be cleaned to get a better idea.I have been reading some other threads and would like to know if soaking these blades in vinager would be a good start? Any suggestions.

nechesh · 22nd January 2005, 06:16 AM

I would use a good fruit acid. Personally i have used pineapple juice. Wash the blade thoughly with distilled water and a gentle dish detergent to remove dirt and oils. A tooth brush comes in real handy for scrubbing. You may need to soak it for a few days to remove any rust, brushing it down a couple of times a day. Depends how much rust there is. Here's a good thread on the subject:
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000717.html
It late here in the States so we can pick this up later if you respond.

casey · 22nd January 2005, 06:22 AM

Look forward to it Nechesh Iwill check out the thread and possibly get to work on them. Case

Henk · 22nd January 2005, 08:52 AM

Nechesh is right about the writing on this keris. It is not uncommon. I only doubt, but it is hard to see on these pictures if it is Islamatic writing. It also could be writng in the old Indonesian language. I cann't remember the name for that language anymore. You can also clean the blade with lime juice. Maybe you can find somebody who can bring up the pamor for you again with arsenic to restore the blade completely.

22nd January 2005, 04:56 AM	#1
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	No problem Casey, i understand your enthusiasm. You've been stradled with a heavy burden here, If only i could be so cursed. Again you have present one new keris and one old. The first one is a modern 3 luk keris singo (lion) in Yogyakarta gayaman (everyday) dress. The second is older (19thC ?) in Surakarta Ladrang (formal) dress. I'd like to see this one restained because the pamor looks like it may be interesting. Almost looks like writing (Islamic) on the blade, which is certainly not beyond possibilities.

22nd January 2005, 05:40 AM	#2
casey Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: australia Posts: 13	Good spotting Nechesh I didnt know if the writing would be noticeable from the pics.I am not game enough to try and clean the blades yet need to learn more about them and be cleer on the correct techniques.Is writing on the blade unusual? thanks Case

22nd January 2005, 05:50 AM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Well, i've seen a lot of it on blades made for tourist trade, but this blade does not appear to be one of those to me, in which case i will say that i do find it somewhat uncommon. Does the writing appear to be made of pamor material or perhaps silver?

22nd January 2005, 06:06 AM	#4
casey Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: australia Posts: 13	Hard to say Nechesh it does seem a little different to normal pamor but I wouldn,t call it either way it needs to be cleaned to get a better idea.I have been reading some other threads and would like to know if soaking these blades in vinager would be a good start? Any suggestions.

22nd January 2005, 06:16 AM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I would use a good fruit acid. Personally i have used pineapple juice. Wash the blade thoughly with distilled water and a gentle dish detergent to remove dirt and oils. A tooth brush comes in real handy for scrubbing. You may need to soak it for a few days to remove any rust, brushing it down a couple of times a day. Depends how much rust there is. Here's a good thread on the subject: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000717.html It late here in the States so we can pick this up later if you respond.

22nd January 2005, 06:22 AM	#6
casey Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: australia Posts: 13	Look forward to it Nechesh Iwill check out the thread and possibly get to work on them. Case

22nd January 2005, 08:52 AM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Nechesh is right about the writing on this keris. It is not uncommon. I only doubt, but it is hard to see on these pictures if it is Islamatic writing. It also could be writng in the old Indonesian language. I cann't remember the name for that language anymore. You can also clean the blade with lime juice. Maybe you can find somebody who can bring up the pamor for you again with arsenic to restore the blade completely.