Intriguing British sword to identify

fernando · 20th November 2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

... Interesting, but it was live so I restrained myself from query/comment as that is not allowed here.

Correct, Wayne; and so is Fabrice aware ... now

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Belgian1 · 20th November 2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Correct, Wayne; and so is Fabrice aware ... now

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I'm really sorry Fernando and apologize to you and to the members of this Forum

fernando · 20th November 2018, 06:20 PM

No problem, Fabrice

Jim McDougall · 20th November 2018, 07:26 PM

Well handled Fernando. So is the item now open to discussion as no comments have been issued thus far, or does it remain restricted?

fernando · 20th November 2018, 07:52 PM

No restrictions at all, Jim !
... And you may as well be the first one to post your comments

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Bryce · 20th November 2018, 10:41 PM

G'day Fabrice,

My main area of interest is British swords of the Napoleonic Period, so I am no expert on these earlier swords, but I think you are on the right track. The overall look is of a slot hilt hanger, popular around the American Revolutionary War Period, but the blade profile is not typical for this period and looks a little later. The guard is as you noted very similar to that found on 1803 infantry officer swords. This sword does seem to be something along the evolutionary line that led to the 1803 pattern infantry officer's sabre, maybe circa 1780- 1790?

Cheers,

Bryce

Jim McDougall · 21st November 2018, 01:29 AM

Totally in accord with Bryce's assessment, the guard has the character of the four slot guards of mid 18th through 1780s, as well as the tall pommel type. The brass and look of the guard with almost a ladder like effect seems in keeping with the 1803.
The blade is unusual indeed but seems reprofiled, and it seems flank company blades were sometimes deeply parabolic and had sharp points like this.

20th November 2018, 06:20 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	No problem, Fabrice

20th November 2018, 07:26 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	Well handled Fernando. So is the item now open to discussion as no comments have been issued thus far, or does it remain restricted?

20th November 2018, 07:52 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	No restrictions at all, Jim ! ... And you may as well be the first one to post your comments .

20th November 2018, 10:41 PM	#6
Bryce Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Queensland, Australia Posts: 195	G'day Fabrice, My main area of interest is British swords of the Napoleonic Period, so I am no expert on these earlier swords, but I think you are on the right track. The overall look is of a slot hilt hanger, popular around the American Revolutionary War Period, but the blade profile is not typical for this period and looks a little later. The guard is as you noted very similar to that found on 1803 infantry officer swords. This sword does seem to be something along the evolutionary line that led to the 1803 pattern infantry officer's sabre, maybe circa 1780- 1790? Cheers, Bryce

21st November 2018, 01:29 AM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	Totally in accord with Bryce's assessment, the guard has the character of the four slot guards of mid 18th through 1780s, as well as the tall pommel type. The brass and look of the guard with almost a ladder like effect seems in keeping with the 1803. The blade is unusual indeed but seems reprofiled, and it seems flank company blades were sometimes deeply parabolic and had sharp points like this.