Moroccan axe?

fernando · 18th November 2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Probably because it's Afghan or Balutch

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Sorry my nonsense but, wouldn't those be more in the pierced blade style ... and no birds (animals) representation, as per Muslim customs ?

motan · 18th November 2018, 02:12 PM

Hi,
No idea, but just wanted to remark that decoration looks like tree of life, which is definitely an Islamic symbol, found on weapons, carpets and many other things.
Eytan

kronckew · 18th November 2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by motan

Hi,
No idea, but just wanted to remark that decoration looks like tree of life, which is definitely an Islamic symbol, found on weapons, carpets and many other things.
Eytan

The tree of life is also a north European/scandanavian religious symbol

It's name is Yggdrasil. The axe is of course NOT Viking....

or is it?

Nice to see some variation in input....

Kubur · 18th November 2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Sorry my nonsense but, wouldn't those be more in the pierced blade style ... and no birds (animals) representation, as per Muslim customs ?

Don't worry, Muslim weapons are full of birds, especially Indian ones, there are forbidden in mosques no more..

kronckew · 18th November 2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Don't worry, Muslim weapons are full of birds, especially Indian ones, there are forbidden in mosques no more..

Indeed, the depiction of worshipped Idols is forbidden, the extension to ANY depiction of sentient beings is a minority. Even the Taliban, who destroy non-islamic historical art are not above depicting themselves in art, photography and in videos. They even may have Photographs of their Idolised Leaders, which is surely forbidden and deserves the severest penalty for them and those who idolise them.

ariel · 19th November 2018, 11:07 AM

I think Fernando’s inversion of the axe head is correct.
The butts of Indian axes very often carried an element representing some kind of living creature, just like here
IMHO it is from India.

kronckew · 19th November 2018, 11:21 AM

Thanks, that seems logical...

Googled 'Indian axe' - that was useless as google thinks native Americans came from the Indian sub continent.

Indo-persian worked better, found a couple with very much the same bird, but symmetrically bladed axes, they were listed as mughal. Using mughal axe if found two heads very much like mine. Without hafts & no origin listed. Finally found a very close head shown in fernando's alignment, but with a round haft and socket. It was listed with a somewhat less than useful description as "Old Indo Persian Mughal Islamic Scripts Ottoman Turkish Arab Talismanic War Axe".

I think I'll refer to it as 'Mughal Indian'.

fernando · 19th November 2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

... Googled 'Indian axe' - that was useless as google thinks native Americans came from the Indian sub continent...

You should Google in my lingo; we name them differently. Indio is the native American and Indiano is the ihnabitant of India.

19th November 2018, 11:21 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	Thanks, that seems logical... Googled 'Indian axe' - that was useless as google thinks native Americans came from the Indian sub continent. Indo-persian worked better, found a couple with very much the same bird, but symmetrically bladed axes, they were listed as mughal. Using mughal axe if found two heads very much like mine. Without hafts & no origin listed. Finally found a very close head shown in fernando's alignment, but with a round haft and socket. It was listed with a somewhat less than useful description as "Old Indo Persian Mughal Islamic Scripts Ottoman Turkish Arab Talismanic War Axe". I think I'll refer to it as 'Mughal Indian'. Last edited by kronckew; 19th November 2018 at 11:51 AM.

18th November 2018, 02:12 PM	#2
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi, No idea, but just wanted to remark that decoration looks like tree of life, which is definitely an Islamic symbol, found on weapons, carpets and many other things. Eytan

19th November 2018, 11:07 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think Fernando’s inversion of the axe head is correct. The butts of Indian axes very often carried an element representing some kind of living creature, just like here IMHO it is from India.