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Questions remain: When did the Samanniya style originate, become homogenous, and the signature style of the Mahdist Era? I think the answer to all elements is, “We don't know.” There is scant and scattered physical evidence. I have summarized what I have found. Others, please add to what is known and may be known. The accounts of 18th and 19th C European travelers to the Central and Eastern Sahel may be our best available sources of information or lack thereof on the swords and their quillons. Historians of the period are also in the mix. Many observers noted the availability of imported Solingen sword blades, and only a few even suggest the grip portions of the swords observed. Historical notes 1700–1702 Father Theodoro Krump (translated by Jay Spaulding) in the Funj lands reports that swords were a symbol of authority among the Funj hierarchy, and separately, that a sword brandished by a local Arab prince was "like that of Emperor Charles." [Fig. 27 is a replica version of a sword of Charles V. Other swords of the period had loop guards as well.] Krump also observes that slave infantry carry lances and shields while horse and camel cavalry use lances or sabres.Thus, we have scant evidence from remote and static sources to support our speculation. In order to progress, we need on-site primary research by Sudanese investigators. Local people have memories, provenanced swords, and perhaps documents that could elucidate our inquiry, but as time goes by fewer exist. No doubt dated heirloom swords still exist in context. But then again, "Who will bell the cat?" Ed Hunley August, 2018 ----------Figures 27,28,29,30---------- . Last edited by Ian; 21st August 2018 at 04:35 AM. |
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Say, Ian ...
Doesn't this work qualify for a sticky in the Ethno Classic threads ? |
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Hi Fernando:
Yes, I think it probably does--along with Ed's earlier post on kaskara silver hilts. I have now added this thread and Ed's earlier one to the Classic Threads List. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 21st August 2018 at 04:55 AM. Reason: Comment about Classic Threads List |
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An old painting from the museum in Addis Ababa (cca 17th century)
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Thanks for your observation/image, Martin. You're correct that there may be a substantial link between the Funj and Ethiopia and other nearby Christian states and the origin of the kaskara. There were a few Christian kingdoms remaining near Ethiopia after the Funj defeated the main one (can't recall its name just now) with capital near present day Khartoum.
I found this thread after the Essay has gone to press. Discussion on this subject herein. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...Kaskara+blades Also Kubur presented this 1845 image in that same thread. Others have been shown previously by others. Regards, Ed |
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From the Ethyopian.
Through the Mamluk swords. We will finish in Byzantium. |
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Midelburgo.
Thanks for your comment. You could well be proven correct. Still need more research on the technical transition/evolution of how the quillon is attached to the blade and tang. Regards, Ed |
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