XVIIIth century Philippine Colonial sword

midelburgo · 24th July 2018, 10:18 PM

The last three swords come from the recopilation of Spanish swords made by Vicente Toledo.

fernando · 15th August 2018, 09:45 PM

Interesting. They may indeed come from different workshops, but the attitude follows identical standards; like the guard dish decoration in both (one of) Toledo's example and that of Fernando.

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midelburgo · 23rd January 2019, 05:33 PM

One of the swords from the posts above, which I numbered as 11 and it is described in Vicente Toledo article "Espada de cazoleta de placa" appeared in 2018 in an antiquities market web (not available anymore).

The interesting part is that there were included pictures with details not visible in Toledo's article. Unnoticed to the seller, I could see that the blade contains the logo of the Dutch East Indies company, VOC, section Amsterdam.

It is usual that the VOC blades from the XVIIIth century are dated, so 1736 must be when this one was made. It is not surprising that a VOC sword would be rehilted at Manila, in the style used there.

In my first post, I missed that in the Estruch catalog next to the sword 1312, there is another, 1311, not as peculiar, but which was also found in Bulacan, Phillipines. This sword (which I will number 12 for my purposes) seems very similar to the "1736".

VOC straight swords or sabers are not that common. I include some from 1749, 1742, 1771 and the second in the drawing (from Puype) is 1732.
Other threads about remounted VOC blades:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ies+Company%29
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ies+Company%29

midelburgo · 11th November 2019, 06:49 PM

A new example (number 13th) of these swords surfaced six months ago in Spain.

This has the inscriptions:

“POR MI LEY Y POR MI REY”.

And the name of owner, province, village and rack number:
“Dn. Pantaleon Espineli – Cavite – Yndang – Nº 26”.

I believe number 11 and number 12 have lost their brass decorations.

fernando · 11th November 2019, 08:31 PM

Very ...very nice

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Dmitry · 3rd June 2021, 01:49 PM

Do you consider the hilts to be fabricated in Philippines?

ariel · 5th June 2021, 11:34 PM

I might be missing something, but why do you think it has anything to do with Philippines?
Also, where is the VOC logo?

15th August 2018, 09:45 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Interesting. They may indeed come from different workshops, but the attitude follows identical standards; like the guard dish decoration in both (one of) Toledo's example and that of Fernando. . Attached Images

23rd January 2019, 05:33 PM	#3
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 263	One of the swords from the posts above, which I numbered as 11 and it is described in Vicente Toledo article "Espada de cazoleta de placa" appeared in 2018 in an antiquities market web (not available anymore). The interesting part is that there were included pictures with details not visible in Toledo's article. Unnoticed to the seller, I could see that the blade contains the logo of the Dutch East Indies company, VOC, section Amsterdam. It is usual that the VOC blades from the XVIIIth century are dated, so 1736 must be when this one was made. It is not surprising that a VOC sword would be rehilted at Manila, in the style used there. In my first post, I missed that in the Estruch catalog next to the sword 1312, there is another, 1311, not as peculiar, but which was also found in Bulacan, Phillipines. This sword (which I will number 12 for my purposes) seems very similar to the "1736". VOC straight swords or sabers are not that common. I include some from 1749, 1742, 1771 and the second in the drawing (from Puype) is 1732. Other threads about remounted VOC blades: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ies+Company%29 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ies+Company%29 Attached Images Last edited by midelburgo; 23rd January 2019 at 06:26 PM.

11th November 2019, 06:49 PM	#4
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 263	A new example (number 13th) of these swords surfaced six months ago in Spain. This has the inscriptions: “POR MI LEY Y POR MI REY”. And the name of owner, province, village and rack number: “Dn. Pantaleon Espineli – Cavite – Yndang – Nº 26”. I believe number 11 and number 12 have lost their brass decorations. Attached Images

11th November 2019, 08:31 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very ...very nice .

3rd June 2021, 01:49 PM	#6
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Do you consider the hilts to be fabricated in Philippines?

5th June 2021, 11:34 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I might be missing something, but why do you think it has anything to do with Philippines? Also, where is the VOC logo?