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Old 19th May 2018, 12:23 AM   #1
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What great wootz!
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Old 19th May 2018, 08:22 PM   #2
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I agree with Battara, beautiful Wooten. The hilt and quillons seem plain for such a blade. I think that I can make out a date in tha bottom cartouche but the gold on the second number in the bottom left hand corner is worn and I am guessing that it is a 2. I make the date AH 1221 which equates to AD 1806 which seems about right for the sword. Others with better eyesight than me may disagree sorry I can't offer any more and thanks for posting.
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Old 20th May 2018, 05:50 PM   #3
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Thanks guys!

Miguel, thanks especially for your translation.
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Old 20th May 2018, 07:22 PM   #4
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To me, the second digit on the date looks like "o" That gives a date of 1021 islamic, ie 1612, which looks much more likely for such a quality blade. Also, the second digit cannot be a "worn two" because even if it was, the remaining lines
do not correspond with the shape of the other "2" on the right.
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Old 20th May 2018, 07:32 PM   #5
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To me, the second digit on the date looks like "o" That gives a date of 1021 islamic, ie 1612, which looks much more likely for such a quality blade. Also, the second digit cannot be a "worn two" because even if it was, the remaining lines
do not correspond with the shape of the other "2" on the right.
I agree the date reads 1021 very clearly.
the rest says, Servant of Shah e Welaayet (Imam Ali the first Imam and the fourth Caliph) Abbas. This is the correct reading of this type of seal, I believe I have explained this elsewhere.
The bottom seal reads, Work of Kalb Ali ibn e Assad.

Very nice blade, the patterns is beautiful.
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Old 20th May 2018, 10:02 PM   #6
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G'day Charles. Great sword.

Is it just me or does this blade have a kirk narduban pattern with the steps on a slant! I haven't come across this before.

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Old 21st May 2018, 01:42 AM   #7
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Timeline according to blade date:
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/germany-I
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Old 24th May 2018, 01:28 PM   #8
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I agree the date reads 1021 very clearly.
the rest says, Servant of Shah e Welaayet (Imam Ali the first Imam and the fourth Caliph) Abbas. This is the correct reading of this type of seal, I believe I have explained this elsewhere.
The bottom seal reads, Work of Kalb Ali ibn e Assad.

Very nice blade, the patterns is beautiful.
Please excuse my ignorance on such things, but shouldn't this be read from right to left, making the Arabic date 1201, or roughly 1787?
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Old 24th May 2018, 04:20 PM   #9
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Please excuse my ignorance on such things, but shouldn't this be read from right to left, making the Arabic date 1201, or roughly 1787?
Hi David,

nowadays Arabic dates are written from left to right.
See this example, 1980 = 1359.


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