Kutch or Hyderabad

Kubur · 16th May 2018, 10:30 AM

Hi Guys

A new arrival in the familly, is it from Kutch or Hyderabad???

Thanks

Miguel · 17th May 2018, 07:01 PM

What a beauty, lucky you. I think it may be Kutch but I am no expert and would hope that that the more knowledgable members like Ibrahiim and Jens will tell us where it originates. Thanks for sharing.
Miguel

Kubur · 17th May 2018, 11:13 PM

Thank you Miguel
I saw Kutch everywhere, only Oliver Pinchot wrote that they might be from South India...normally he is very reliable...so I don't know...

Kubur · 17th May 2018, 11:14 PM

a last example...

silberschatzimsee · 17th May 2018, 11:38 PM

i like that chiseled peacock!

Battara · 17th May 2018, 11:45 PM

I too say south India due to the proximity to Arab trade routes.

ariel · 18th May 2018, 04:44 AM

Battara,
Plenty of Arabs and old Arab connections with NW India: Kutch, Hyderabad , Baluchstan. They came mainly from Yemen (Hadhramis) and what is now Saudi Arabia / Oman ( Hejazis), both being Janbia neighborhoods. There are 2 Hyderabads : South Indian and Pakistani one in the Sindh province.

Omani Sultanate even owned part of Baluchistan till 1950s and there is a sizable Baluch community in Oman. There was a thread here on peculiar saber handles from Baluchistan, a mix of Indo-Persian and Omani traditions.

I think this janbia is from that area, and Kutch sounds very believable.

Battara · 19th May 2018, 12:21 AM

Thanks for the information, Ariel!

Kubur · 19th May 2018, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I think this janbia is from that area, and Kutch sounds very believable.

This time I agree with Ariel.
Just look at other weapons, axes for example, the ones in the Sindh are very different from those of the Kutch... I vote for Kutch.

BANDOOK · 30th June 2018, 04:25 AM

HI YOUR JAMBIYA IS DEFINATELY FROM BHUJ IN KUTCH,WHICH HAD THE BEST SILVERSMITHS ,ONE OF THE BEST KNOWN WAS OM ,OMASJEE MAVJEE
BEST REGARDS
RAJESH

16th May 2018, 10:30 AM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Kutch or Hyderabad Hi Guys A new arrival in the familly, is it from Kutch or Hyderabad??? Thanks Attached Images

17th May 2018, 11:13 PM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Thank you Miguel I saw Kutch everywhere, only Oliver Pinchot wrote that they might be from South India...normally he is very reliable...so I don't know... Attached Images

17th May 2018, 11:14 PM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	a last example... Attached Images

17th May 2018, 07:01 PM	#2
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	What a beauty, lucky you. I think it may be Kutch but I am no expert and would hope that that the more knowledgable members like Ibrahiim and Jens will tell us where it originates. Thanks for sharing. Miguel

17th May 2018, 11:38 PM	#5
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	i like that chiseled peacock!

17th May 2018, 11:45 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	I too say south India due to the proximity to Arab trade routes.

18th May 2018, 04:44 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Battara, Plenty of Arabs and old Arab connections with NW India: Kutch, Hyderabad , Baluchstan. They came mainly from Yemen (Hadhramis) and what is now Saudi Arabia / Oman ( Hejazis), both being Janbia neighborhoods. There are 2 Hyderabads : South Indian and Pakistani one in the Sindh province. Omani Sultanate even owned part of Baluchistan till 1950s and there is a sizable Baluch community in Oman. There was a thread here on peculiar saber handles from Baluchistan, a mix of Indo-Persian and Omani traditions. I think this janbia is from that area, and Kutch sounds very believable.

19th May 2018, 12:21 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Thanks for the information, Ariel!

30th June 2018, 04:25 AM	#10
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	HI YOUR JAMBIYA IS DEFINATELY FROM BHUJ IN KUTCH,WHICH HAD THE BEST SILVERSMITHS ,ONE OF THE BEST KNOWN WAS OM ,OMASJEE MAVJEE BEST REGARDS RAJESH